please note - reviews on this site are purely the opinion of site visitors, so don't take them too seriously.
We would like to apologise for the fact that we did not have real ale when you and others visited from mid-afternoon on Sunday. This was due to the fact a ‘Trade Union festival’ that went through more ale than we anticipated.
We also had a delivery failure of ale which left us short.
Real ale is a live product and we cannot store a backlog or go out and purchase when we are short.
We do not stock Newcastle Brown Ale as there is not a demand for it, we do stock Whitbread Pale Ale.
We will have all three ale pumps on by Wednesday allowing for the ale to settle and undertake the second fermentation.
We do hope that you ‘DarkLordOfBarnet’ find the time to pop in our pub again as we would like to show that this was just an unfortunate situation that will not be happening again.
Sorry for any disappointment we have caused to any of our customers we hope to see you all soon.
From Us at
Ye Olde Rose & Crown Theatre Pub
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I was looking forward to sampling the real ales as advertised, but arrived to find they had none left. Not impressed. So I asked for a bottle of the old standby Newcastle Brown - they didn't have any of that either. I was reduced to having a couple of pints of keg John Smiths. It wasn't very nice and two pints was more than enough - it left a nasty taste in my mouth all the way home. It's a nice fairly traditional looking pub, but they didn't have any beer that I actually enjoyed drinking. I'm in no hurry to go back.
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This pub is improving all the time as the new owners progressively sort it out. Beer quality is now consistently good, and the guest ale range changes all the time - reasonable prices too. More events and gigs etc are planned. At last Central W/stow has a really good pub - hurrah!
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This is a much improved pub. Was astonished to find Crouch Vale Brewers Gold in a pub in Walthamstow. And it tasted like nectar!
I'm intrigued to see how far this pub can go and the theatre idea would add a bit of much needed culture to the area.
Watch out Nags Head!
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Nice pub, if in the area well worth popping in. Cottage was the guest beer on when I went in recently and the staff were very pleasant.
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This place has been reborn!
Had a fantastically well-kept pint of Pride here the other day. Finally a pub with decent ale in central Walthamstow - and without the "middle-class ghetto" feeling you get in Walthamstow Village!
They have a web-site where they list their events
http://www.yeolderoseandcrowntheatrepub.co.uk/
Places like this deserve to do very well - I hope it thrives.
I just hope they sort the paint job out - currently it is painted a horrid shade of white and the place feels like a barn! I am hoping this is just an undercoat.....
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A rapidly improving pub, since the new managers took over a couple of months ago. Decor has significantly improved and the loud televisions removed. An upstairs theatre has only just opened (I haven't visited yet). Beer is well kept, real ale and lager - which wasn't always the case under the previous incumbents. The new owners also talk of having other plans for a variety of entertainments. All-in-all a very promising prospect that anyone who knew it in the bad old days should revisit.
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Thing's are going in the right direction if a little slowly. All the bric-a-brac that used to be a 'feature' has thankfully been consigned to the bin, or the cellar I believe. This has allowed the new landlords to clean off the 20+ years of dust that had accumulated and to give the place a coat of paint which is still ongoing. The place retains a rather odd smell which I assume is from the remaining furniture and carpets - reminds one of a rather stale museum. I gather that certainly the furniture will be sorted soon.
Gone are the TV screens - bringing an end to the football night madness that used to go on in the place and gone also at the moment is the sound system which means there's no more Kiss FM/MTV forced upon you at intolerable volumes either. I will miss neither.
I do hope this shift in format will bring enough custom to make the place a success because it's much more pleasant for someone who wants to enjoy a drink and a conversation without some of the intrusions and the 'characters' that used to frequent the place. The owners/bar staff seem very friendly and not the usual sullen crowd that seem to flit between this pub and the Bell.
Beer seems ok and not too expensive.
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This pub continues to improve; good beer at very reasonable prices (£2 55 for Pride or Adnams!), very friendly staff and lots of plans in the pipeline. If I want to pop out for a quick one, I now drop in here rather than heading for the bus stop and going further afield.
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Had a terrible pint of IPA in here. Tasted odd and was wrong temp. This pub has been going up and down more than Kerry Katona's knickers over the years. I doubt if it will take off again. The area has had a change of population over the years and a lot of the locals do not drink or cannot afford to. Good luck anyhow as I think you will need it!
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Dropped in last night and was most encouraged. The horrible fake olde worlde decor has almost all gone, as has the incessant TV footie, and Adnams and Greene King IPA were on handpump in good nick at very reasonable prices. Friendly service, and the new owners obviously have major plans. Whisper it softly, but all the signs are that Central Walthamstow could at last be getting the really good pub it has lacked for so long.
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Dear friends are now new part-owners, and if I know Viv & Bun (and Joanna in the pub theatre), things are really going to be humming! Well, we're going to be there for the official opening in late May, so I'll post again. But the latest comments are promising.
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I hope you're right. I live 5 mins walk away and would happily drink in here regularly if it had consistently available & decent real ale. As it doesn't, I walk past it, get a bus from the bus stn and drink in the William IV in Leyton. Central W/stow badly needs a decent pub, and this could be it if the owners want it.
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This pub has finally been taken over by someone who seems to have plans put a bit of care back in to the place. Most of the dusty, dirty tired decorations have been ripped out, they're about to decorate, the outside has already been started. They plan to bring in a theatre upstairs and the sports screens are gone.
And for the first time in ages .... a couple of hand pulled real ales were available. (They'd had these from time to time befoire but always seemed to be sold out).
Fingers crossed, it'd be good to have a decent pub this side of Walthamstow.
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Visited the pub last weekend. It's a very big establishment, with nice people and a friendly atmosphere. You can enjoy a quiet drink, play pool, watch live sports or have a good time with various live entertainment.
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I don't know what all these other comments are about but when I went in this place the other day I could'nt work out who was who! Staff or customers. There was a lady behind the bar worse for wear for sure but I don't know if she was the Manager as if she was she did not correct the horrible service I received when I asked about the real ales on offer. I was asked 'what do you mean?' There was'nt any so I had Guiness which was ok. I tried to enjoy my pint but had a crossfire of banter between people from behind the bar and around the public area. Swearing and drunking nonsensical purile exchanges. What a horrible place this is. Big place without atmosphere. What is it about these London Pubs? There are loads in this area and there never seems to be any leadership in them. When I left after my pint, not a word of thanks or goodbye, even though I did say this to them. No wonder the place was practically empty. I will not be going there again in a hurry!
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My my ‘Anonymous 8th August 2007’ you do seem to have a ‘bee in your bonnet’ about the Landlady!
How about this for a novel idea? If you don’t like her then don’t go in the Rose & Crown?
Maybe that would help you get over whatever grudge you have against her?
I couldn’t possibly comment on this lady’s alleged behaviour in the past, however I can comment on what I have seen in the past few months and that is the landlady appears to possess a bubbly, welcoming personality which is obviously drawing in a nice varied clientele to this establishment!!
To the landlady of the Rose & Crown I bid you good luck in your venture and ‘don’t let the bugger’s get you down’!
Kiara - 12 Nov 2007 18:26 |
Hello,
Whoever is the annoymous person who keeps leaving comments on The Bell & The Rose & Crown can they own up please as my name has been dragged into this.
Thank You!
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well what can I say i hope the manager does a better job here than she did at the bell with her outrageous drunken behaviour!! she drove people out of the bell to the rose I only wonder if she will do the same drive them back to the bell!!! will say it is alot cleaner lets hope the attitude is alot cleaner now!! shame about the outdoor seating!!
anonymous - 8 Aug 2007 15:11 |
Real Ale can hardly be compared to bread in a bakery. Get a grip ! Pubs sell alcohol! The world doesn't revolve around real ale !I quite liked this place. It looks a lot cleaner. It is a bit quite but I think they only reopened it a couple of weeks ago. It has real potential to be a great place. I hope it works out.
anonymous - 4 Aug 2007 13:48 |
Went in the other night and found all the real ales off. On enquiry was told they'd be on in a fortnight. A FORTNIGHT? Would you open a bakers and tell your punters there'd be no bread for two weeks? I don't think so. No excuse.
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Hmmh rather interesting comments from 'anonymous'??
Must say I was also there on the 21st July (when the pub re-opened) and I was a bit dubious about what to expect of the Rose & Crown but I must say I was rather impressed to see that some effort had been put into the place a long last!!
It was apparant that a well desreved clean up of the interior had taken place! (however it is also apparant that like some other landmark pubs in the area it does require a refurb!!)
I found the bar staff were pleasent and on the whole the atmosphere was pleasent and relaxed. Its early days for the Rose & Crown so if your in the area maybe you should pop in to see what you think for yourself?
Oh and response to 'anonymous's comments just out of curiosity are you the same person who posted the reviews about the Bell in Walthamstow on the 16th June 2006 & 16th July 2007?
Kiara - 29 Jul 2007 15:05 |
Oh god just went in last night and discovered that this institution of walthamstow has now been taken over by the ex landlady of the Bell, just up the road. She had a real reputation for insulting her customers there while hanging off the end of the bar drunk most nights with an array of here friends that seemed to only hang around her for the free drinks she seemed to dish out to them.
Oh well whats happening to Walthamstow??? Won't be going back to the Rose for some time now, will stick to the Bell... at least I won't get insulted and won't have to feel sorry for the people that get insulted and those poor sods that have to carry her out every night.
anonymous - 22 Jul 2007 16:47 |
The Mcguffins Film Quiz here( on the first Saturday of every month)is an absolute institution.The pub itself just seems to get shabbier, and the only real beer last weekend was an undistinguished London Pride.
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I agree with the other comments, this has the potential to be a really decent little drinking establishment if someone is willing to put the time and money into it. And crikey does Walthamstow need it!
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I noticed this has a 'Business To Let' sign outside it now so if you're an aspiring landlord/lady with a bit of good taste then please, for Walthamstow's sake, have a look at this place - it's a local landmark, smack bang in the middle of Hoe St. Blinding potential. Just rip out the god-awful interior, get a good menu going (i assume they have an adequate kitchen as they used to offer Thai, Italian and English fare), tart it up a bit and with a bit of savvy this place could give every other pub in E17 a run for it's money.
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Walthamstows premier Wars of the Roses themed pub. Beer can be hit and miss but its pretty good. Not sure whats going on with the opening hours though.
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I ventured down here yesterday to watch the cup final (Arsenal and Chelsea) only to find it closed with a note on the door saying something about a 'technical problem' - what's all that about?? It's a pub, how technical does it get? This is my local. All i wanted was a short stroll, a few pints of Guiness and a bit of footie on a Sunday afternoon but oh no - Walthamstow's answer to the tower of london has gone all glithcy. Thanks.
I ended up in The Queen's Head surrounded by Chelsea gobshites.
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I know; the apparent change of policy lasted about a week. Seems to be linked with the Bell in some way, as the R&C opened on New Year's Eve till 7, then the Bell opened 7 till late. Why oh why can't we have one really decent pub in Central W/stow, instead of having to get a bus down to Leyton?
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WOW! What a transformation!! This place looks great with new tasteful decor, loads of comfy seating and nice fixtures - not to mention the new wide range of beers and food selection.............not really, it's still the same old tacky tower-of-london-themed cess-pit it always was. Shame really because it's a really nice building from the outside.
Sort it out!!
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Reopened just before Christmas, though still has "To Let" signs up. New management advertised Christmas Eve as traditional family night with mulled wine & no loud DJs, and real ale is back on (Adnams & London Pride) so they seem to be making an effort. I hope they succeed; Hoe St & central W/stow need an alternative to footie pubs with blaring TVs and loud music. Nothing wrong with that in itself, but sometimes you fancy a change.
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Currently closed for no known reason. This morning, looked like squatters had moved in.
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Very unusual boozer, possibly one of the only medievil themed pubs in the country, which clearly was done some time ago. The place is grotty, the beer was poor, although the service wasnt. I went on a Saturday night and it was dead, so dont go here if you want atmosphere. Like patrickjsm says, pop in have a look, leave.
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Staff are bad, beer is bad and the last time I went the whole place stank of urine. The only redeeming feature were the crossbows on the wall. Pop in for a look by all means, but buy nothing and hold your nose.
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Dont be scared to go in this pub. Looks pretty dodgy from the outside but is actually pretty good and very friendly. Does Thai food, typically, which is actually very good. Selection of ale is very poor, although it is pretty cheap so cant complain too much
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Good Thai food, and not expensive either. Couple of pool tables, a few screens for the football. Not a bad place.
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The beer is average but the pub is dirty and the service slow. We only go here for the folk club but haven't even been there for that since it changed to Sundays.
anonymous - 14 Mar 2006 17:21 |
Beer OK (usually London Pride & Adnams). Folk club upstairs Sundays, but arcane council rules mean you have to register as a member 48 hrs before you want to go. Never encountered bad country music; more usually bad rap/dance music playing obtrusively loud. One of worst Gents toilets I've ever encountered. Two cubicles, neither with a toilet seat, and one without a door. Door of other one doesn't bolt. No excuse for such disgusting facilities in this day & age.
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Crap pub. Play really bad country music as soon as the football is finished. Can anyone in that pub pour a Guiness.........don't bother as they have no idea.
Although the bar is big they only serve on one side and have no idea when it is busy.
Would not go out of my way to go to this pub. Best walking down the road to The Bell.
anonymous - 27 Nov 2005 16:22 |
mingey pub this one,crap food very average beer and non too friendly natives except for the ginger copper reeling around,nice to see a copper when you need one, cute too
nigel kelly - 11 Oct 2004 16:39 |
As per the previous comments the food in here really is bad. I had to eat a whole rack of scampi fries just to get the taste out of my mouth. This may explain why I am having no luck with the sexy barman.
Kathy Molloy - 7 Oct 2004 12:34 |
That barman is sexy and he pulls a good pint of fosters cold. Good choice of beers here but the food is pretty bad. Nice picture of Thomas More on the wall.
John Mannion - 6 Oct 2004 16:53 |
Nice sexy barman. The cold Fosters is a must , but I have to lay off it know as the baby's due. See you in six months.
Kathy - 6 Oct 2004 08:20 |
Apart from the tall one who sits in the corner looking like old bill, not bad place.
Food is awful, but then, I am from Queensland!
Steve - 28 Sep 2004 20:14 |
