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lamewand - 11 Apr 2017 22:33
And WHY might they make that completely erroneous assumption?
wealdman - 11 Apr 2017 18:47
Nice building, except for the very dirty toilets. However, the beer is excessively overpriced for a very mediocre pint - I tried three different beers including the Holden, each was a bad as the other and all wsere well over £4 a pint. As for the bar staff...I've never seen a more disinterested bunch than those who were on duty last Saturday night.
I'm told the pub is popular for it's garden and outside area...it certainly doesn't deserve to be popular for it's beer or its service.
cretemick - 21 Dec 2015 08:44
This is a modern and airy pub which sells several beers and has its own 'house' brew. Quite expensive and I wonder how much demand there is for somewhere like this in Colliers Wood. Build it and they will come perhaps.
rainlight - 30 Jul 2015 17:24
Pub opposite Colliers Wood tube station.
There was a man standing in the alleyway.
I wouldn't go in there if I were you, he said.
I'll be the judge of that, I said.
I went in there. It was a large space in the currently fashionable dark grey scheme lit by large subtle windows giving onto a back area that is a garden filled with plants of many kinds. I had a pint of admittedly quite good beer which is the local brew and I was charged the appropriate amount for it.
Good God, I said.
I went outside.
The same man was standing in the alleyway.
I said I wouldn't go in there, he said. Now what are you a judge of?
I left.

rainlight - 29 Jul 2015 23:04
Nice pub. Good service, good atmosphere. About £12 for a pint of lager and a glass of wine.

Only real downside are the ladies toilets. It looks exactly the same as when it was a dodgy pub. Seats are loose and floors dirty.

Leaves a nad taste...
PrincessChani - 1 Oct 2013 23:31
Nice decor, shame about the staff. We went there on Sat evening and were enjoying our overpriced drinks until we witnessed an angry barman carrying a chair in the garden and putting it on the floor with such a force that everyone around jumped on their seats. when asked if he was having bad day, he barely refrained himself saying: "the chair was heavy".
If you like paying £4 for a pint to rude staff go there. Otherwise AVOID.
luke_p - 7 Jul 2013 00:22
I was in this pub recently and there was four real ales on offer all at £3.50 a pint - London Pride, Courage Best, Wainwrights and Caledonian Golden XPA, a good range and all well kept. A nice big garden at the back of the place handy in the warm weather, recommended.
Scotsaledrinker - 8 Jun 2013 17:34
I had a few pleasantish summer evenings in the garden.

The beer was OK, but pricey. That might have kept certain elements away to a degree, but from other reviews it doesn't seem entirely successful.

I didn't find much else in the vicinity, however.
eddybeer - 18 Feb 2013 14:37
The pub is so much better than years old, but don't ever go there on Brazilian day/night
Men and woman disgusting bitches all standing outside pissing everywhere, that is so not nice for my children to watch, woman too eugh dirty yuk.
landlady please show them where the toilets are next time

moaner - 11 Jun 2012 08:08
pub is awesome atmosphere especially on weekends... down side to this pub... they charge night club price's !! its like 19 pound for a bottle of wine !! and 4 pound for a pint rip off !!
dino88 - 24 Nov 2011 18:00
Friday night, nice local modern pub.
Pros: attentive bar staff topped up my pint without asking, friendly mixed Friday night crowd, 4 ales - Thwaites Wainwight, Bombardier, Courage Best, and Caledonian Flying Scotsman - the last too were good (7.10). Sports screens were in the rear. Felt comfortable on my own. Will go again.
Cons: staff throwing bottles into the bin behind the bar was a bit irritating.
twotoneblue - 28 Oct 2011 21:39
Unfortunately, what used to be a fun and safe pub, where we used to spend a lot of money, has now turned into a common, dirty, dangerous pub. I walked in a few Saturday's ago, but left immediately.
The impression I got was that a big fat gypsy wedding reception was being held there.

It is ok during the day, but don't go there at night - especially on Saturdays.

Damn shame!!
PrincessChani - 20 Jul 2011 22:45
Oh dear an overpriced poor quality ale boozer. Two pints one Wainwrights the other Directors for 9.00 is obscene and both were past their best and hazy. Complained to the chav barmaid and offered no apology or a fresh pint. AVOID!!!
Barra - 14 Jul 2011 14:05
I don't usually bother posting reviews, but I felt compelled to in this instance because of the comment from 2 April 2011 stating the place is full of "aggressive pikies". This is a rugby pub. Suggest you look up the definition of "pikies". I just moved to colliers wood 1 month ago and I have been to this pub several times since then. Thank god for this pub because I can't find another decent one in the area. Pubs that show rugby seem to be the exception and this one has multiple screens (even one outside next to the BBQ), plenty of seating and a friendly crowd of regulars. Drinks were fine, food was better than average and staff were friendly. I give this pub 10/10. For the people who rate the pub so badly, I have no idea what you are looking for in a pub, suggest you go to wine bars instead.
Pubfan123 - 19 Apr 2011 12:57
Pub now full of aggressive pikies always looking for a fight! Be careful if you go in this pub!
Ringley - 2 Apr 2011 13:57
Anyone know whats changed with this place?
Popped in last week, only because it was raining when I came out of the tube and I was desperate. Ended up staying for 3 hours and had a great night.

HTP - 18 Jan 2011 19:33
Ate here yesterday. Food was poor, overpriced, greasy, and the menu completely without variety. Beer was the right temperature and the glass was clean, I guess. Pub was entirely without atmosphere. With GJs slowly dying, just up the road, Colliers Wood's pubs are in a pretty sorry state.
mharwood62 - 22 Nov 2010 16:35
Well I said I'd never go back to this place but as I was in a rather good mood I thought to myself you can't hold a grudge forever and persuaded our little crew to try it once more regardless of the comments here. Bad move I'm afraid, it appears to have got worse and Halloween has come well early! It obviously doesn't have a manager, well not one that cares about it anyway,it's just so unkempt and unloved that I'm surprised anyone goes there, all 7 of us gave it a firm thumbs down, it's a shame as we spend huge amounts in pubs and something local that is clean, different, entertaining and appealing is all we want, is that too much to ask nowadays! It needs another chap with hunger for success and ideas coming out his ears like that the guy that used to run the place a couple of years ago, the one and only time the pub has ever been any good. Never mind, no doubt another pub that will close it's doors eventually due to poor company management.
pubandbarlover - 12 Oct 2010 23:02
Just had the most revolting meal in the colliers Tup. Burnt chicken peices, fatty bacon, invisible balsamic dressing (chef swears she put some on) I had to return the food. it was replace with a tasteless omelette with 'salad' consisting of one SLICE of tomato, a bit of cos lettuce and 5 slivers of onion. chef wore a gruppy strappy top (no chef's garments here) and had an attitude when I returned the food.

Where on earth is the manager? Is this a chain of pubs? something needs to be done, it could be a good pub but the young inexperienced staff let it down
lizziek1 - 19 Aug 2010 20:11
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. What's happened to the Tup?
The staff are poor, the place is dirty, and the beer quality is variable.

The other day, I was presented with two pints of beer that you couldn't see through, and was then told that there was nothing wrong with it - by two bar staff. Eventually, one of the more experienced ones came along, took one look at it, and told the others to change it. The replacement ones were a bit better... but needed topping up. Topping up is normally done politely, and with good grace. Not in the Tup. It was done grudgingly, with another one of the staff telling her friend not to top it up, as it SHOULD have 10% head.

It's all a terrible shame, as the Tup is generally a good pub. The manager also seems to know what he is doing, when he can be bothered to do it. Sadly, the rest of his staff deserve the sack.
busman77 - 17 Jul 2010 17:04
a great pub garden sadly let down by the pub itself. seriously tatty interior not helped by the miserable selection of beers. if you like 6 identical tasting eurofizz lagers then this is the place for you; if you have anything resembling a palate then avoid like the plague. overpriced and staff aren't much cop either. this place could clean up if someone actually gave a toss.
cornish_alfredo - 15 Jul 2010 16:22
What a great Pub!!!!!! Jimbo and the guys are always really friendly and have made me feel soo welcome since i moved to the area! Easily the best pub around especially for sports and during the England Games got served without much of a wait!! If your gonna complain aboutt he price of the beer and suggest 2 pubs that are infact more expensive but have very little going on compared to here then get your facts straight an d every pub has there share of trouble and felt that Jim and the door staff handled the situation well and stopped it escalating further! Noone wants to see trouble in their pub and those guys probably shouldnt have been let in but when you are as busy as they were then it is impossible to keep your eye on everyone at once!
OK this isnt the place to go on a Friday or Saturday if you want a quiet drink with mates in which case the Kirk or Antelope is better but you will be hard pushed to find a pub with a better fun atmosphere as well as a bonfire every saturday night and a place where you can hire your a BBQ and bring your own meat - what a fantastic idea!!

This place ROCKS and is a great place to come!!!!
Jimmy1183 - 1 Jul 2010 14:07
I went in the Tup on Sunday for the first time in months - maybe even years.

Oh dear, what on earth has happened? The place was absolutely filthy. Near my table I found a broken base of a wine glass - nothing dangerous, but it was covered in grime and clearly had been there a while. The toilets were disgusting and covered in grime, looking like they'd not been cleaned for months.

We left after one pint.
bods - 15 Jun 2010 10:39
This pub has really gone downhill over the past 6 months.

Last Friday there was a huge brawl which resulted in someone getting a glass in their face. The beer garden was cordoned off as a crime scene investigation by the Police.

I would really advise anybody to avoid this establishment. Quite apart from the terrible service at the bar from disinterested staff who short-change on a regular basis, the food is awful and the pub is populated by local ne'er do wells.

They open until 2am at weekends and have a DJ playing loud chart music and seem to let all & sundry in. In an area like Colliers Wood, this means the pub is populated by a nasty bunch of chavs who drift over from Mitcham to take advantage of the late licence and cause trouble.

Why the present landlord does not seem to take a responsible attitude I do not know but he should really be employing professional doormen & barring the dodgy element and closing no later than 1am.

There's no reason to frequent this establishment anymore. I don't want to witness ugly scenes like those of last Friday. It's easy enough to hop on the tube and visit far superior (and safer) pubs like the Antelope or the Selkirk where the beer is better and the food a class above.

My advice (and I do say this with a heavy heart being a local resident) is avoid The Tup like the plague. It's just not worth 3.50 of your hard earned cash.
elcapitano - 10 Jun 2010 01:27
Some friends and I spent an evening in the Tup about a month ago. The beer was overpriced and the food was so bad we sent it back.

Last night we decided to give it another go but unfortunately the place seems to have got worse rather than better. The choice of beer is really poor and to make it worse it will cost you 3.80 for a pint of Heineken! (That's more expensive than the beer I bought in the West End the night before).

Don't bank on being able to get a quick round in. If you want to be kept waiting at the bar while the staff serve all their friends first then it is definately the place to go. We tried the food again and wished we hadn't. It was both cold, tasteless and made fom cheap ingredients. - If I were a member of staff I'd be embarassed to serve it.

I wouldn't go again - I am open minded but the Tup had it's second chance and blew it! I would rather spend my money in a place where the staff make you feel welcome.

The only good thing about this pub is the large back garden. If you can afford the beer to sit in it that is.


lala1 - 3 May 2010 19:42
This place has certainly picked up alot recently especially on Friday/Saturday nights.Great crowd ,all different ages,great music and nice garden out the back.Great friendly bar staff too.Something like this has been needed in Colliers Wood for ages!
Doesnt seem to as many loud south africans there now either which is always good!
Ringley - 22 Mar 2010 13:00
My friends and I thought we would give The Tup another whirl after hearing a new manager had taken over from the drug fuelled ex landlord. We stayed a few hours but to be honest it wasn't so much a bad experience as a rather bland one. Beer wasn't up to much and the wine was rather on the warm side, on the plus the place looked a little cleaner but still lacked the atmosphere, warmth and hospitality of when Andy and is team were there. Everyone seems to be in The Nelson nowadays, will check The Tup out again in another few weeks but in the meantime we'll all drink where the pleasant crowd is.
pubandbarlover - 29 Dec 2009 21:42
yes
Didi - 17 Nov 2009 14:07
Was this pub previously called the Victory?
EJ2704 - 14 Nov 2009 22:38
I am also very sad on how much the Tup has changed lately. It has no atmosphere anymore and the food - I really wouldn't try it again, and I have tried it a few times, got worse not better.

I used to be in the Tup most Saturday nights for the discos, NYE, the Collywood nights and way to more to mention, and a great night was always had by me and my friends. It has just not got the fun or wow factor it had when Andy was the manager, I also used to hire an area for my Birthday party, and did so each year Andy was there, now, I am having it at a pub in Clapham instead. Don't fancy GJ's either.

I think it is such ashame that the Tup will never be the same as it once was, I have so many great memories and will never forget the wonderful times Andy gave us - If you ever read this Andy - we miss you so much and would love nothing more than to see you putting on some of you great shows in the Tup once more. Please come back and run another pub in Colliers Wood or even Wimbledon.
twiglet20 - 2 Nov 2009 13:14
I totally agree with the latest two comments on how the Tup has lost all it's fun and charm since Andy has left!!! I think we need to bring Andy back from Tenerife not just ring him!!!

Bring back Andy, all his theme nights, fun nights and great times he gave us at the Tup!!!
oldtuplover - 28 Oct 2009 16:29
I am really sad about the state of the Tup lately. I also feel its lost the same safety and friendliness it once had. As a girl i'd feel more than happy to go and wait to meet a friend on my own and now I definitely wouldn't. There are some really intimidating people in there now creating that "old mans pub" environmnent. It was always full of quite young professionals in there which always made me feel safe, and on sundays the quiz night was rammed, and really good fun.

The landlord before organised events weekly - there were posters up in the bathrooms(which REALLY need a lick of paint ..and some bleach) and it always felt buzzing, it really lacks that magic now.
Last time i ate there we got our money back and the time before that the new landlord apologised and swapped our meals (for something equally as bad) not sure i fancy giving it another go. The nachos used to be lovely and they can't even get that right anymore.

People want to feel at home in their local and cosy and among friends, it feels empty, cold and unwelcoming. Maybe Dan could give Andy a ring in Tenerife for some tips on how to win us all back?

A bottle of wine under 16 would be nice for starters.

Such a shame,
dollydimple - 28 Oct 2009 11:01
I think Dan, the new landlord is a very lovely guy with good intentions but i think, sadly that the regulars are slipping away from him. When Andy was there he was very front of house, most people knew him and when people got out of hand he would go and have a quiet word. I have been a few times recently when people, loud and aggressive drunks have just been allowed to dominate. Last Sunday for example, the pub quiz used to be packed - difficult to get a table - this week there were only 6 teams and it was thoroughly irritating to have to share the pub with one particular drunk who spent most of the time hassling the woman reading the questions. There is a hostile atmosphere here now in the evenings, and where once it was a pub that i would go into on my own and wait for friends...now i would not. It's a shame, the old buzz has gone and I'm not sure what to suggest to Dan apart from that he stop being quite so nice and act like a landlord with standards and ask people like this to leave or behave. I just hope it's not too late to get some of those regulars back, we are all talking about ditching the tup for GJ's...it's a shame.
cillatastic - 27 Oct 2009 10:02
Been in the Tup alot lately and I like the new boys Big Jim and Danny boy. Much more friendly again. Beers in top condition too. Had a lovely pint or three of Spitfire.
mccomb - 3 Oct 2009 10:52
I've lived in the Wood for just over 4 years now and have made use of almost all the local pubs in that period. Since Dan took over the Tup it's become become by far my favourite (and my local). It's a more friendly pub than perhaps previously, largely down to the effort that Dan puts in with his customers.

I've always found the staff friendly and efficient, although (as always in a pub that gets as busy as the Tup) sometime you may have to wait a few minutes for a beer.

Great to see that the tradition of good ale has remained... and the rugby!

Looking forward to a nice winter evenings in the Tup in the next few months - hopefully with some Youngs Double Chocate Stout.
ianwilson - 6 Sep 2009 22:07
NIce enough pub with a great garden and excellent proximity from the tube.
Expensive yes, but where isn't nowadays except 'spoons.
Have not tried the food, but the BBQ in the garden last time I was in looked very professional.
Didn't see or hear any bumming or snorting in the toilets when I was there so maybe this is not as prevelant as some might believe.
Good all round boozer....7.5/10
monkeyboysupreme - 29 Aug 2009 23:51
This used to be a good pub a few months back but it's gone downhill fast. About 12 of us used to visit regularly and have a great time but between us the last few weeks we have experienced staff abuse, drug taking in both the loo's, men having sex on more than one occasion in the gents loo and generally feeling unwelcome. The care and attention to detail has disappeared really, notices that used to be virtually everywhere, overdone to be honest, are now either out of date or the boards are empty. A few of us went back in a couple of weeks ago for one last and hopeful visit but we've given up now, the appeal has vanished and so will we. We like our rugby but not even sure if it shows it any more. Not sure also about the comment from the new manger stating 'trying to create a great pub', it was a great pub before. Why change a successful formula, the 12 of us who will no longer visit all have friends who will no longer visit, we all miss The Tup, bring it back.
pubandbarlover - 21 Jul 2009 16:45
Hi Dan

Well, what can I say. Went in at about 6.30pm today to have a couple of pints while waiting for my wife but, and I will quote what your barmaid said to her colleague as I left when Bombardier ran dry and she looked at me as if she had been working 8 straights hours without a break and asked if I wanted anything else! "I couldn't be bothered to change the barrel".

Lovely staff you have working there. Customer service Zero.

Been living in Colliers Wood for 6 years and used to come in quite often, but with staff like yours it's probably easier to pop to Tescos.

Thank goodness that there are plenty of good pubs up in Wimbledon.


Beernale - 17 Jun 2009 18:56
You guys gonna get some Doom Bar in then? I might steer people down there a bit more (e.g. for the footy tonight)...
Groovehound - 27 May 2009 13:38
Hey guys,

Wow...lot's of comments, good and bad. Hi, Andy has indeed left and I've taken over. After 14 years of living in the Wood, I'm trying to create a great pub, where you'll get good service, good food and good times.

Know I'll never please everybody, but if you fancy a chat and a beer please do pop in and ask for Dan. Will never slag off other places in the area because we all work damn hard to please you guys.

Constructive comments always welcome...

Cheers,

Dan
dang77 - 12 May 2009 03:27
i think the manager andy must have gone as he is not ranting on here anymore as soon as anything or one gives any feedback that tells him something that he deemed negative. hilarious!
Didi - 6 May 2009 12:44
Haven't visited this pub yet but their Latin subscript is a bit cosmic: "Oves Optimae Sunt" i.e. Sheep Are Best. Is this some covert and demeaning reference to their customers or (worse yet) to the reputed habits of some members of one of the great Rugby nations? (Yes I know a Tup is a ram i.e. male sheep).

Positively unsettling.
_grobag_ - 24 Apr 2009 12:48
crikey some people do get there knickers in a twist over a pubcos fortunes...or ahem should i say lack off !! Dear oh dear !!

the tup is still the same as it always was - devoid of much soul - but delivers the product admirably

good honest stuff
petey.p - 13 Mar 2009 18:12
Aren't people allowed opinions anymore then, or do they all have to be positive?

Some people have good experiences, some people have bad. I thought the whole point of this forum was to give a view of a pub, both good and bad, so therefore the landlord/owner/whatever can have a look and act on it?

Get over it
Oliver_Reeds_tash - 12 Mar 2009 18:09
I feel I have to write on this forum to support The Colliers Tup and Andy's team. The comments have angered me and I feel are inappropriate. 'Yes' I agree that tables can be dirty, however once reported it is very quickly dealt with. The staff are pleasant and always smile upon approach. Perhaps it's the attitude of these negative punters that stinks!

I have been frequenting the tup since the day it opened and have found Andy and his team to be extremely helpful, assertive and knowledgeable. The theme nights have been a hoot and friends have travelled far and wide to attend them. Where else are you able to dance on the bar? Play board games? and have a jolly good time all within 5 minutes of home!

I have found Andy to be encouraging for ideas and suggestions - therefore those of you who complain on this site, why don't you grow up, give Andy some constructive advice and you never know he may make any alterations. Complaining on here is the wimps way out - grow up and get some balls!

Those of you who frequent GJs cannot complain at the 'state' of the tup - GJs looks as inviting as an acid bath!

I for one will certainly miss Andy and his quirky theme nights. I wish him all the best. I just hope that the new landlord is as approachable, this is a very exciting time for the Tup and I look forward to a 'new and fresh' concept.

Catherine

kittycat - 12 Mar 2009 17:21
I feel that I have to say something
I used to love the Tup. But now I avoid it like the plague.
The tables are always sticky and dirty. The bar staff are rude and ignore you whilst chatting to their mates. And this is directed at Andy the licencee - they are probably on their best behaviour when you are around. You fail to see how surly, rude and obnoxious one lady in particular actually is.
There is often a strange smell coming from the place too.
And for crying out loud - why on earth is MTV Base or whatever it is on all the time? Are you aiming the pub at teenagers? it's distracting for the grown adults who would like a beer after work.
And because this is on ALL THE TIME there is a need to shove scabby old blankets in the windows to block out the sun.
here's a thing - turn it off!
Please get rid of that pole - it makes the place look hideous too. Oh and not sure if it's still there but what the hell is with that odd little free standing bar thing that is in there?
Back to basics. oompah night, quiz night, good ales, good food.

rinky - 18 Feb 2009 15:22
Went to the colliers tup last night and was amazed at how wrong some of the previous comments are. found the staff very friendly, pub had a nice atmosphere and the food was fantastic.
shame that i don't live nearer as i would definitly go to this pub more often
jef - 5 Feb 2009 10:20
Hello jolly old souls, Andy here, Tup manager, back for another round of banter!
Care to enlighten me please on who told you to 'f**k off Mr Double Top, thats my priviledge only and many a customer has deserved it believe it or not, just because we're a service industry doesn't mean we have to put up with the crap we get when you've had one too many beers! As for not giving a s**t about the pub as you put it, you're quite wrong to think it's because I'm leaving that you think that is the reason, there has to be a reason why I'm leaving and if you had the balls to approach me first with your greivances, you may well have a different view of the whole picture, and not gone home, actually joined beer in the evening that very night and made assumptions. The Tup has been a big part of my life for 4yrs+, I even left my family back in Birmingham for a whole year before moving them in, as it was such a crap hole, so sacrifices have been made many times and the extra mile gone more than I care to remember. So do I give a S**t about the place, of course I do! What i would like you to do is come and tell me who told you to 'F**k off because if proven true and undeserved, I very much doubt that my superior will want her to continue their employment here { the 3 on that night were all women who I know very well and am very surprized to hear this story}. So, if you have gone to the trouble of signing up that very night and stating your complaint, you may as well take it a step further and contact me! Sorry about the real ale choice busman77, had lots of kickback about that, we built our real ale reputation on the weird and wonderful choices of ale we had, quite a few don't bother now because they can get what we serve elsewhere and cheaper. People were prepared to pay more for originality but I am but a mere manager and have to do as I'm told, still we serve a top point of ale as you quite rightly pointed out thank you. On a very good note, a new licensee will be arriving very soon you'll be happy to hear. I believe he is a top chap and very food orientated, I think The Tup will become much more food focussed and get it's edge back with fresh blood, new ideas and a new much better looking chap at the helm. I'm off to pastures new and will miss The Tup and the majority of its patrons, at 45 I'm way too old to put up with crap from anyone anymore and so will be leaving the pub trade for good after 20+ years of hard slog, and for the most part I've loved it. No doubt I'll be back on here a couple of more times yet ;-} to air my views! Bye for now and a very happy and healthy 2009 to all. Andy

beav8rit - 19 Jan 2009 16:36
I don't usually 'do' sites like this, but feel compelled to do so this eveing after an utterly dissapointing experience of this pub.

The Tup used to be my favourite boozer - landlord was doing an excellent job of running the place, and as a result everything seemed great - I certainly had no complaints, and recommended the place to everyone.

But (and previous posts seem to echo this point) the landlord is woefully abscent these days [he's leaving in March so obviously doesn't give a s**t about the place anymore] and as a result the place has gone to the dogs.

Service is abysmal. Tonight I found the bar staff ineffecient and rude. To cite a specific example: 10 minutes after the 'time' bell was rung we were unceremoniously herded out of the place. I realise that, legally, the establishment is within its rights to do this (I've done my research!) but frankly I've never been in another pub that doesn't allow you at least the traditional '20 minutes drinking up time', and this was, at best, a poor exercise in (regular) customer relations.

When I tried to negotiate for a few more minutes to finish my drink I was told to "f**k off".

A general point regarding the service: I can only reiterate what previous posts are saying - current staff seem to me to be inadequate, poorly trained, reluctant to do a proper job, and far more interested in chatting, gossiping, or even ridiculing the customers. (I have been on the receiving end of a rude and personal comment. You expect and accept it from your mates, but not from unfamiliar bar staff whose wages you are paying.)

I don't agree that it's "still the best pub in the area". Walk up the road for 5 minutes and you reach the Garden House which, since it's recent takeover, is getting better and better. I live and work around here, and Garden House has become my number one pub of choice.

The Colliers Tup is a sinking ship, which I, for one, will be abandoning immediately.
double16 - 15 Jan 2009 01:23
The tup is the best in the area, but that's not saying too much, lets be honest. Shall we consider the other pubs in the immediate area?

Venus - Looks like a bath showroom

Kiss Me Hardy - More mutants in there than the X-Men's annual dinner and dance

Royal Standard - Looks like the only people that drink in there are already dead

GJs - Probably the next best pub, but still about as charasmatic as a fart in a lift.

Baobab/whatever it turns out to be - Never stays open more than about 4 days

I used to love the Tup, great atmosphere and brilliant laugh, then it went downhill rapidly. Christ knows why, maybe it reached its pinnacle and no one cared anymore. I've been to all the Oompah nights so far and the last one had a fraction of the amount of people there than usual - maybe something to do with whacking the pints up to 4 a pop (its Colliers bloody Wood, not Mayfair).

I still go down there from time to time and it's still ok, just nothing like it was a few years ago.
Oliver_Reeds_tash - 7 Jan 2009 14:28
Well well well... a mixed bag of reviews recently! And for good reason! It's not as good as it was, but it's not that bad, and still the best in the area.

The beer (real ale) selection is not as extensive as it was, but it's not bad, and the quality is excellent.

The staff aren't as attentive - too much gossipping behind the bar, and they're not as experienced. Shame. Always seems better when the licensee is around.

Cheers c(_) !!
busman77 - 4 Jan 2009 18:45
Yes, it's better than when it was The Victory, but the Tup has gone downhill in the last few months. It is dirty, tables arern't cleared, and the bar staff do ignore you to chat.

If you can't accept any criticism there's not much point in you replying. I like the pub, but I liked it more six months or a year ago when it seemed looked after, now it seems neglected.


Loki - 2 Jan 2009 16:11
Rinkly, when was the last time you came in. The blinds have been up four months now, the grotty old blanket as you called it was actually a shoulder wrap blocking out the sun so that the screen could be viewed properly. Yes 4 months minimum so your last visit then was at least 4 months ago, i actually come on to this site now and then not because i give a hoot about your saddo comment, most of them are from so called competitors anyway, but because i enjoy replying. Last 18 of 9500 licensees in a recent competition, 2nd out of another 7500 licensees again this year in another major competition, pub breaking all records, you make me laugh man! LOL LOL LOL. I actually leave in March, god help the pub then. Last 3 pubs i've taken on from close downs to hugely successful pubs, within 6 - 12 months of me leaving, guess what, all closed down again. Jobs up for grabs if you fancy it. Be a great time to take on GJ's when i leave, but then most of the comments on here are from GJ's. Tata.
beav8rit - 1 Jan 2009 02:03
I have to agree with the last post.
This place had so much promise but it's gone downhill terribly.
The place is always filthy, instead of curtains or blinds - there is a grotty old blanket hung at the window. They have MTV playing SO loudly all night. When they staff can be bothered to serve you they treat you like crap. I will not be going in here again.
rinky - 22 Dec 2008 12:14
came in tonight(sun 9.11) about 6pm and left a bit disgusted. I have never seen so lazy staff before, customers were asking at the bar to wipe their tables(mine looked like it hasn't been cleaned since lunch), empty glasses were everywhere, seen 3 guys who sat down at the table full of crisps and no one even reacted. no wonder; two staff were sitting at the door drinking and only one was on the bar.
shame cause the place looks nice inside and they serve good ales...

luke_p - 9 Nov 2008 23:22
Hi Shaba and Jelnet, Andy here,licensee.

First Shaba, i've nothing against 18-20yr olds, and you are quite correct that people of any age, especially with drink in them, can be a right pain in the butt. The reason we have an over 21's policy here is entirely down to two criteria, 1 - I do as i'm told, it's what i'm paid to do. 2- we aim at a specific market, which unfortunately doesn't include the under 21's. Your comments here and the manner in which you have mentioned them, lead me to believe that you are a decent person and wouldn't give me an ounce of bother. Again, unfortunately, after 20yrs of managing pubs, this is not generally the case, having had more aggro from the under 21's than anyone else. I turned away about 9 last night, half of which appeared ok, the others, mouthy and scruffy, i also find that a lot with the under 21's, if you want to go out for a saturday evening, make the effort, look smart, don't wear a hat, my roof doesn't leak;-} and be polite. None of this applies to you i would imagine, but for me to change policy, the company would have to give me the go ahead anyhow. Thanks for your comments.

Jelnet - Hi. The clamping firm have not been operational on this car park for at least 6months. So, if you have been clamped within this period, i suggest you contact them. It was a mistake employing them as they were useless, and believe it or not we didnt receive a penny from them, not for want of trying, they screwed the company i work for. One thing i must say mind, common sense tells you that there is no such thing as free parking in London, yes the road belongs to the company, they pay extortionate rates for it, the taxi firm hire the car park from the company, why shouldn't they receive remuneration for it. It's not a pub car park, it's just a road adjacent to it which as i just mentioned, the company pay the rates for. Not much i can do about the fine now, but when they were here, i got the ticket cancelled of at least 90% of anyone who was clamped here, providing they approached me in a civil manner. I remember one chap who had been clamped 3 times in 3 weeks in 3 different areas, free parking, not in London. If you ever do decide to try us again, give me a call and i'll provide a meal and a bottle of wine on the house, The Tup remains a great venue, seems weird to boycott if you actually enjoyed coming here, s**t happens as they say, and it's taken over 6 months for you to mention it, time to get over it now. Have a good week.
andylicenseetup - 12 Oct 2008 15:02
this is a pub which seems to be very judgemental. i say this due to the fact of around a month ago i was walking past when a group of 4 sober looking 18-21 year olds (2 male 2 female) were walking out a bit disapointed. i heard them saying about when had it become a over 21's pub. this to me seems like they class all under 21's as untrust worthy when i know of 30 year olds who can act a lot worse i think if people over age of 18 seem sensible then they should be alowed to drink, as it is only a challenge 21 law we have at the moment, then if they do play up then bar them!
Shaba - 9 Oct 2008 03:04
Used to frequent this pub, until one day my visiting mate got a clamp and a 150 release fee for parking outside the pub in the adjoining "private" road. Of course there were warning signs in the road, about 20 feet up and with very small lettering.

The pub staff "helpfully" informed us later that we could have got a special ticket from them to display in the car which would have prevented the clamping. However, we'd have had to have been psychic or telepathic to know this since there is absolutely no signage to this effect in the pub.

Turns out, after further research, it's the pub that owns the private road and employs the private rip-off clamping firm (Night Hawk Security as I recall), so clearly they get a nice little backhander off those unfortunate enough to park in their private road. If that turns out to be their own patrons sometimes, then so be it.

Needless to say we've boycotted this establishment ever since.
jelnet - 5 Oct 2008 03:00
this pub opens early and closes late to show sport. I watched the Calzaghe fight at 4 am and a few months later watched Ireland v New Zealand at 8am. shows the football, rugby, taekwondo, whatever you want.

Bonfires, dancing, quizzes, attractive bar staff of both sexes (I like the one who wears the cordorouy dress) and decent pub food- tup burger, hello.

Bavarian Night? Yes please!

9 on 10
Stout - 4 Sep 2008 17:44
Apologies for delayed answer, just got back from a great time in Italy. Pub opens at 4pm Mon-Thur, 3pm Friday and 12 Sat/Sun as a rule. But,if the rugby is on we open an hour before whatever time it starts, rugby has been starting between 8am and 10am quite frequently lately, we always open and have a license to serve alcohol from 7am. All times are subject to change, especially as we other things in the pipeline for The Tup, early breakfasts, Deli offerings etc. Pop in and say hi to me sometime,always happy to meet a new face, cheers, Andy.
andylicenseetup - 19 Aug 2008 00:47
I have just moved to the area last week, i had a few days off work for the move and i decided to search the area for a decent pub, yours look liked the best in the area from the outside but you were closed, this was at 2pm, so i went to the dodgy pub a couple of doors up from you, the next day i thought i would try again and you were closed again, so i went to the dodgy one again, what are your opening hours? or was this rare thing.
pubsam - 7 Aug 2008 09:14
This pub is amazing. there is always something going on week in week out. We have had some of our best parties here and Saturday nights are always a blast. The best Bonfires in the world.
mccomb - 19 Jul 2008 06:54
WELL IM GLAD U HAVE THE TIME TO TAKE A GENUINE INTEREST IN YOUR CUSTOMERS COMMENTS AND THE SARCASM TO SCAN THEM FOR MISPELLINGS.I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS SIGHT WAS FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT PUBS,NOT FOR MANAGERS TO HAVE SLAGGING MATCHES WITH ANYBODY WHO DARES TO MAKE A NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT THEIR PUB.ANYWAY WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE GUY WE WERE REFERRED TO BY THE BARMAID WAS THE MANAGER.WE CERTAINLY WONT BE CALLING IN FOR ANY CHIT CHAT .YOU LOST 11 CUSTOMERS TO ONEILLS IN WIMBLEDON THAT NIGHT,BUT IM SURE YOU DONT MIND AS YOU ARE ALREADY SO BUSY.I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT IF YOU WERE THERE YOURSELF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED WITH ALOT MORE MANNERS.YOU SEE,THE FACT THAT THE BOTTLE OF WINE WAS ADVERTISED LOWER THAN THE ASKING PRICE WAS A SMALL DETAIL COMPARED TO THE WAY WE WERE TREATED.I JUST THOUGHT IT WORTH POINTING OUT.
pintman - 3 Jul 2008 20:45
i think so ;-}
andylicenseetup - 3 Jul 2008 18:45
'pinting' snigger....
propertyking - 3 Jul 2008 14:05
Interesting story,i'm even better than i thought i was, managing to come across as 'mannerless' when i was at the Bon Jovi concert at Twickers. Thanks for pinting out mind that my 'bootle' of wine was incorrectly priced,i will change that in case it becomes a matter of national security. By the way i answer all e-mail/beerintheevening/personal comments in exactly the same way they are given,talk to me in a manner appropiate and i will always answer the same, be cocky, short,or ill mannered and you will get the same response back as i will assume it is the only responce someone will understand. Thanks for promoting my business too, as busy and successful
'old son', tata for now, please do reply or pop in, i do enjoy a chit chit.
andylicenseetup - 2 Jul 2008 17:41
I ACTUALLY REALLY DONT CARE HOW BUSY OR SUCCSESSFUL THIS ANDY GUY HAS MADE THIS PUB.YOU SHOULD NEVER FORGET SIMPLE MANNERS.WHEN QUESTIONED LAST FRI EVENING ABOUT CHARGING A HIGHER PRICE FOR A BOOTLE OF WINE THAN HE HAD ADVERTISED ON THE BOARDS HE BECAME HIGHLY INDIGNANT AND DOWNRIGHT RUDE BASICALLY SUGGESTING THAT HE COULD CHARGE WHATEVER HE BLOODY WELL LIKED.WELL ACTUALLY ANDY OLD SON,IT IS AGAINST THE LAW AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO,JUST CONTACT WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.....WE DID.
pintman - 30 Jun 2008 11:00
Thanks for the comments Millay,great to see constructive critism for a change. In my defence we only have 4 operational hand pumps, two are dummies and there purposely to advertise the next on,but i can see your point so am going to change the set up.The Tup has gone from zero to 80gl+ per week in real ale sales in a little over 18 months which i'm very proud of, plus the fact that the mighty Edward Theakston has chosen my pub twice to do real ale cellar courses because of this, makes me doubly proud and in the main means we get it right. I also prefer to have two fast moving real ales on then 3-4 slow. I apologise your pint was below our usual high standard,we only use guest ales and stay away from the 'Bombardiers and London Prides etc because we want to be adventurous, this can back fire on us occasionally by not using the main stream ones. I've personally worked on real ale for 19yrs,at one time i was serving from 36gl casks and doing 14 a week. Hopefully you will try us again, believe me our real ale sales have rocketed and its the hardest market out there to please, cheers and all the best, Andy
andylicenseetup - 14 May 2008 23:43
Bills itself as SW19s Premier Rugby Pub and it may well be so. There are a number of TVs including two large drop down screens. Theres a large outside seating area that I imagine is popular in the Summer months. The disappointing thing was that although they have 6 hand pumps only two were in operation, two of them had signs saying available soon, one said I just run out and the other had an identity crisis. I had a not too good pint of Bitter & Twisted, and after being charged 3.10 I was.

Millay - 11 May 2008 20:04
This is a cracking place. A real local. It was THE ONLY place to be during the six nations. Andy always makes such an effort when hosting events - you always feel welcome. The staff are friendly and Sunday night quiz is great. I've lost count of the amounts of great nights I've had there.
treeherb - 16 Apr 2008 21:16
My mates and I love this place, it's welcoming, fun and in a prime location. Andy has really made the pub worth visiting especially with the theme nights

My only negative, the food. There needs to be a bigger selection of pub type food especially platters. The Nachos are great but there are so many other options such as Thai, Indian and Chinese style platters etc. And where are the puddings we were promised 2 years ago!!! Also almost everything on the menu has cheese with it!

Nevertheless I will still visit on a weekly basis.....just not to eat.
kittycat - 23 Mar 2008 15:58
takings might be up, but the tup has really gone downhill, the barstaff are rude and grumpy, the food is crap and drinks are overpriced. its a total meat market on a friday/saturday - if you fancy having sweaty local mingers drooling over you then head on down the ratio is about 10 blokes to each girl so you'll have your pick!

used to be good...emphasis on used to!
JennB - 16 Mar 2008 13:29
700% increase in takings in last two years, down to the last 18 for national licensee of the year {of an original 9300}party pub of the year last two years running, 153 private parties booked in 2007,the local MPs and Councillors pub of choice,i love the fact ' there's something not quite right about it' obviously it works wonders!
andylicenseetup - 9 Mar 2008 11:39

This place is a funny one...

It looks a bit worn out round the edges, the staff get a bit grumpy and it's not cosy enough to be a nice local but it gets packed out on a Friday and Saturday night.

It's not a great place to pull (single girls would go somewhere better for that and it's a bit of a sausage-fest too) but great for a dance and they flaunt health and safety by actively encouraging people to dance drunkenly on the bar, which is a good thing.
They also have good beer (usually) and the cottage pie is nice.

But there's just something not right about it.


Headhunter13 - 19 Feb 2008 14:11
Fashionable by appealing to the rugger set????? Its because personally i'm in to rugby,its by no means 'an attempt'rugby will ALWAYS be the number one choice for sport here.
andylicenseetup - 17 Feb 2008 15:07
Good choice of ale, although expensive. Pub 100x better than the old Victory, however don't like it's attempt to be fashionable by appealing to the rugger set. Yah.
Wilson_MacDonald - 16 Feb 2008 22:24
Hi elcapitano, no change for The Colliers Tup as we are part of a company called Glasshouse TMA and not affected by the 'Massive' announcements, so business as usual. Be a great pub to go it alone mind ;-}.
andylicenseetup - 14 Feb 2008 13:52
In light of the news that Massive Pub Company has gone into receivership, where does this leave the Colliers Tup? Is it going to be taken over by another pub chain, or will the present landlord try and go it alone?
Would appreciate any comments (from regulars or the landlord)?
Cheers.
elcapitano - 12 Feb 2008 17:38
back on this friday
andylicenseetup - 30 Jan 2008 20:57
Hey Andy...........what happened to the 'Strongbow' then?????
bruffy - 26 Jan 2008 17:37
a 3 point plan to make this a better pub...

1) get rid of all the tat
2) get rid of all the antipodeans
3) get some decent bar-staff

easy
propertyking - 6 Dec 2007 17:36
This pub keeps getting better and better. There is always something fun going on. The garden and outside areas are brilliant for big parties.Saw the Rugby World Cup final here - awesome.
mccomb - 29 Nov 2007 15:44
Not a bad pub. Relaxed, good atmosphere. Bit pricey though - especuially for the area.
zak39 - 27 Nov 2007 10:26
This is an awesome place to watch the Rugby at. The crowds are always friendly with none of the nonsense so often seen at pubs showing football. Beer is okay, nice ales though the staff are slow on the uptake and some seem to struggle a bit with English (but still very friendly). The veggie Nachos is by far and away their best dish value for money wise. The roasts are good if a little pricey. All in all a great place to go for everything form a quiet midweek beer to a more fun weekend experience with your mates.
JozieBoy - 5 Oct 2007 11:41
nicest pub in the area by a long way ; not hugely innovative but a steady reliable watering hole for sure. flowers outside a real attraction and always draw me in ! food and ale all good

well done the tup !!
petey.p - 3 Jul 2007 16:41
how expensive? bitter is not great. food very uninspiring. staff ok. not much really although it is a tup so what do you expect?
anonymous - 10 May 2007 14:28
A great pub, slightly pricey but a fabulous pub. Like the bar staff who efficient and friendly. Great place to drink and socialise. The beer garden is an absolute gem.
anonymous - 23 Apr 2007 13:14
Great garden, and a dedicated fella running this place. Expensive drinks, walls covered in tack and urgently needs needs the smoking ban, but best pub the Wood.
thesapper - 6 Apr 2007 07:53
I see they have heeded my comments and replaced the girl that reads out the quiz. Well done! The new girls is both easier on the eye and ear-drums.
propertyking - 3 Apr 2007 10:53
Great pub !! Ye know how to celebrate even better than the irish themselves !!! Think my cuz and me were only irish there on paddies nite. What a fab nite thou !!! thanks . Will be back !!Sharon from eire.
sharon07 - 22 Mar 2007 17:17
Hiya Andy and all at The Tup!! Im still recovering from yet another fantastic night in your company! All of our friends say how much they enjoy The Tup and how friendly everyone is! It is so lovely to go out for a drink in a place that we can all feel so relaxed in, we party, dance on the tables and always have such a great night with you! It was Karens birthday last night and none of us could think of anywhere else we would rather of been!Heres to many more nights!! Love from Dizzi!! xx
Dizziblonde - 11 Feb 2007 14:41
??? on the pricey side? well considering the quality of their ales I am happy. i don't think they are pricey at all? where else serves a decent pint of beer? The Garden house sometimes has Speckled Hen on , but it's always off! I don't recall ever having a bad pint in this pub and I go there at least once a week. The place is friendly, has good crowd what more could you want?
Flawed - 7 Feb 2007 12:34
typical of its type but the beer was ok, if a bit on the pricy side...
bigbeerdie - 23 Jan 2007 21:00
I've been using the Tup pretty much since it's been open and i personnaly think the balance of the pub is just right at the moment.

It's an ideal place to take the girlfriend for a drink without getting hassle or to go for a quiet pint and read the paper or for a all dayer with your mates.

Good pub, good atmosphere and good location.
keep up the good work.
hedgehog77 - 11 Jan 2007 13:00
Hi,thank you to everyone who attended our new years eve pink and black party,another sell out and a great party was had by all.The show must go on so Aussie day celebrations will be on the 26th & 27th January, to include entertainment and bonfires on both evenings, Aussie style tucker, some Ausie tunes and some Aussie style beverage offers. Guest Real ale on the go at the moment is 'Hoppy New Year'.We got hammered over the period so Bombardier and Tribute is on its way. To those of you who do not like the Tup or what it represents try the Nelson, he's a nice chap too! I lost a booking to them for over 100 people at Christmas,when i asked why, the answer was because The Tup is TOO busy, says it all really! Bye for now, Andy.
andylicenseetup - 3 Jan 2007 21:08
A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL,THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN REASONED ARGUMENT, THOSE WHO JUST TAKE A GANDER AND THOSE WHO LIKE TO WIND EVERYONE UP,BEST OF LUCK IN 2007, Andy.
andylicenseetup - 20 Dec 2006 00:25
Cheers for the info. Agree with Jimmythefish, it's good to see a licensee interacting with customers/potential customers.

Curious about PridenJoy, haven't got around to sampling that one, will have to pop in to try that. Got no problem drinking a lower alcohol brew as long as it tastes nice. In fact, it could do me a favour!

Not at all surprised Tribute was such a good seller. Had one elsewhere recently and it went down a treat, so i had a few more. I expect others are doing the same.
mitomighty - 12 Dec 2006 21:23
Forgot to mention, you will always get a 'taster' sample on the house if you ask, my staff are trained to offer too, if you appear hesitant. Try before you buy,now whose going to argue against that!
andylicenseetup - 12 Dec 2006 20:44
Scot co Mitomighty, keeping you all up to date, at the moment we have Bombardier {4.3} Weltons Pridenjoy {2.8}but with the flavour of a very decent 4% ale, Batemans Rosey Nosey will be on tomorrow at 4.9, Wenceslegless at 4.6 will be on by the weekend and St Austell brewerys Tribute {4.2} which has flown out the last few weeks, will be back on early next week.Happy supping, Andy.
andylicenseetup - 12 Dec 2006 20:30
Overall a decent place, the fact that Andy (licensee) is on here posting comments and encouraging constructive criticism is indicative of the place, ie clearly run by someone who is trying to improve the place and run it as his customers would like. Head and shoulders above anything within at least half a mile, my only 'negative' comment would be that it is slightly on the expensive side for the area at 3-3.20 a pint of lager. However if this keeps out the less favourable clientele that would probably frequent some other local boozers it is a price worth paying for the most part. A solid local, good for watching sport, and themed nights every now and again which isnt necessarily my bag but at least shows willing on behalf of the management! A solid 7 out of 10, some room for improvement but pretty solid overall.
jimmythefish - 11 Dec 2006 17:47
Aleking makes some good points that i agree with but then perhaps we are looking from two different viewpoints as it is a business for the licensee who therefore has to consider the books. That however, doesn't bother me as a potential customer.

I'm glad to hear there are a few different ale choices in the pipeline and that perhaps my experience of it isn't universal. I've probably been very unlucky!! I'll come in to try some if I know there is something different there.

Having only a few ales on isn't a problem but having the same old choices is often off putting. Having one more unusual one next to the standard stuff you get everywhere would make the pub more appealing and tempt the likes of me in more often out of curiosity.

Who brews Tup Ale out of interest?

mitomighty - 10 Dec 2006 16:04
Before the Colliers Tup became the Colliers Tup, it was The Victory, and as the new landlord points out, The Victory was a grim place. Colliers Wood still has several alternative grim pubs, so it's refreshing that we finally have something a little different. Maybe it's not to everyone's taste. If that's the case, it's really not rocket science: don't drink there. Drink elsewhere.

There are several pubs to choose from in Colliers Wood now, such as Venus, Rehab, Baobab, GJ's, The Sultan and the William Morris to name but few. All of these venues offer something slightly different. It's not as if the Colliers Tup is the only pub in the area.

So for anyone moaning about the Tup's ale, clientele, food, prices, staff, bonfire etc etc, why not go and drink in one of the alternatives above? Or even better: drink at home where you can moan away to you heart's content without annoying those who simply want to enjoy themselves.
harrishawk - 8 Dec 2006 17:49
Hi, i'm rather of the belief that with the effort that goes in to produce and then dispense a pint of real ale, its should be more expensive than standard lager! At the moment we are on our third cask of Tribute in 4 days,have Weltons pride and joy conditioning and Rosy Nosey on the way. Bombardier will always be here probably, i love it and Charles Wells give good support. Deuchars i agree is splendid and will be back,Spitfire, Theakstons, Youngs and several others are in the pipe line, i prefer to serve all drinks in branded glasses, if they won't supply them i move on.Surely too, you must be of the belief that to have 2/3 reals ales on of quality and being used within 2/3 days is better than having 4+ average ales being dispensed over a longer period!I had a pub once serving 9 real ales, some from 36gl casks,we'll agree to disagree Mr Aleking,the figures say it all. Please do introduce yourself though,i'm a friendly fella.
andylicenseetup - 7 Dec 2006 21:03
To give The Tup some credit (and despite my quibbles) it has done very well because it is a broad church, covering a large part of the demographic, and still gets regular visits from me.

The Tup can cater for all people, whether for a quiet drink, to watch sport, for a pint of ale (relatively speaking as none of its closest rivals serve any), for a party, to eat out, etc. The pub would never top a poll for any competitions, but as a whole package, and being so near a tube station, it has carved out a strong market. I think the distinct lack of competition has given it a monopoly as the closest mainstream rivals (Baobah, GJs and Venus) have struggled in creating the same perceived sense of community and identity, despite being more established.

I find it dull because it feels too similar to all the other Tups (not sure how much influence the chain has over the running of the place) and never emerges as anything other than ordinary. For instance, the ale potential is wasted. I think it has six or seven hand-pumps, but usually only the same three ales dispensed (Bombardier, the Tups own brew not sure about the background to that and the markedly superior Deuchars) and thats it. Guest ales are sparse and, at 2.90, represents the second most expensive pint of ale Ive have purchased in London; honestly.

In fairness, and to confirm my point, the Tup is clearly not aiming to be known as a top quality ale house (five minutes walk takes you to The Sultan, which serves better beers at a fraction of the price - 2.15) but it can cater for that market. Im glad to see the guvnor has been encouraging ale drinking and Ive notice a marked improvement in the pulling of pints. Sadly most punters seem to still prefer their bland nitro-keg fizz at over 3 a pint.
AleKing - 4 Dec 2006 13:49
Sorry to hear that,we love The Tup,always something going on, friendly and welcoming. Being tied to certain brands has its restrictions unfortunately, but we're after the all over experience,good luck and keep it up.
andylicenseetup - 1 Dec 2006 21:27
Sorry, that cellar course was the week before last!
andylicenseetup - 1 Dec 2006 19:32
Oh well,can't be arsed with bickering! I'm presuming i can pull the plug,i'll ask, so if the sites not here next time you visit, apologies to those who actually used it as the tool it was mean't to be used for.Just to put you in the picture mitomighty,Eddie Theakston, who i'll take a guess at that you have heard of, being famous for Theakston ales, chose my pub from a choice of 40 possibilities, to perform a real ale course, due to the quality of both my cellar and ale! I've won many cask ale awards over the years and have quadrupled sales in the last 8 months!Make of that as you will. Andy.
andylicenseetup - 1 Dec 2006 19:31
No - I'm not an estate agent. I'm not sure of your understanding of the word 'professional'!

I don't think the Tup is overpriced. Afterall, if you want to eliminate rif raf you have to put prices up. Being overpriced is a matter of opinion. I would rather pay more for my larger if it means I don't have to drink with undesirables!

I'm glad to see the food is going to improve.
CollyWood_Yuppie - 1 Dec 2006 18:08
Good to see the manager's comments on the site. The pub is obviously making an effort but the pub's too expensive and the choice of lagers is rubbish - Is the selection prescribed to the pub and if so to what extent? Regarding the ales, well they have never been in tip top shape on any of my visits, and have been poor on many. If I haven't had to change my pint I often feel like I'm putting up with the quality. It's a different style of pub from others around but that doesn't mean that it should sell things in inferior condition. My girlfriend likes the pub and although i don't think it's particularly special, I could be persuaded in more often if I thought the beer was better.

Regarding the website,people enjoy the squabbling so maybe you should just overlook that stuff. In fact,
I'm going to partake in the squabbling right now and say that collywood yuppie sounds like a prick!!
mitomighty - 1 Dec 2006 13:39
Fair comment Andy, all five of us girlies {now thats given it away}visit The Tup most weekends,no one bothers us and we like to party! Over priced yes,food needs addressing yes,but we always feel welcomed and go home happy. Keep it exactly as it is,{apart from the chef of course}.
anonymous - 30 Nov 2006 22:51
To Collywood_yuppie

Are you an estate agent?
Why are you so keen to 'push the old clientle out'?
So it becomes faceless and boring nad full of idiots like you?
And why do you want to make Colliers Wood the new Balham / Clapham? By that do you mean over priced and crowded? And again - full of idiots like you?

rinky - 29 Nov 2006 14:01
why do people want to turn colliers wood into the next clapham? or even worse, balham! is it perhaps because mummy and daddy could not afford to give them a big enough deposit for a house there so they had to move to scummy colliers wood? get a grip. go to the sultan for a decent pint. if you want to join the clapham wannabees then stay in the tup to drink luminous shooters wishing you were going back to your flat off the common and not on byegrove road. my roast was frozen here the other day. avoid.
anonymous - 28 Nov 2006 14:54
I guess it is too late now for opinions....Starbucks is about to open on the tandem centre phase 2. It won't be long before Nero and Costa move in now and will probably head nearer the station. Can't imagine Rehab and Venus will last much longer without be taken over by the chain pubs.
anonymous - 20 Nov 2006 13:34
Probably the only decent pub in Colliers Wood? The William Morris and The Sultan, to name but two, present not only cheaper food/drink but also better quality food/ale.

More of a demand for this type of pub? Bland, bric-a-brac, identikit chains like the Tup - owned by Massive Pubs - are not something that professionals or any other member of society, should desire, unless they are bland, bric-a-brac, identikit professionals.

Colliers Wood may have an SW19 postcode, but it is not Wimbledon (genuinely nicer than the laughably faux-riche Clapham and Balham). Colliers Wood is between Wimbledon and Tooting/Mitcham, geographically and socio-economically. Still there is potentially more local individuality than the soulless, shallow, sterile, hang-outs of Balham and Clapham.

Colliers Wood shouldnt be colonised by these horrific, absurd clowns under the guise of making it more professional. That tends to mean local businesses being swallowed by the All Bar Ones, Starbucks and Pret-a-Mangers of this world.
anonymous - 17 Nov 2006 15:47
This pub is probably the only decent pub in Colliers Wood. However, the food is rubbish and they really need to get a new chef.

There is more and more of a demand for this type of pub in colliers wood as more and more professional move into the area. It has prime location, what with the tube station and redesign of the tower and tower island.

The pub has a great future. We just need to keep pushing the old clientele out and so help turn the area into the next Balham/Clapham.
CollyWood_Yuppie - 17 Nov 2006 14:14
I can't believe the negative comments about the Tup. It's just what Colliers Wood needed! Always a warm and friendly welcome, great atmosphere and loads of events. The perfect local!
jojogee - 2 Nov 2006 19:24
The ale is usually crap (I've had to give back my pint quite a few times) and there aren't any other decent beer options. The garden is quite nice. Not great for watching football, far too quiet. It doesn't really have any competition in the area for the kind of market it's aiming for. Food is nothing special but OK. Fair play, they are trying to make it interesting by putting on various events.
mitomighty - 12 Oct 2006 23:40
As I resident of Colliers Wood I've watch this place grow in popularity. The garden area is great, the fire pit is an interesting attraction (what red blooded male doesn't enjoy watching a good bonfire whilst supping ale?). More and more things to do keeps this place interesting from the sunday quiz nights to the new friday night poker league.

I've started loving this place and the friendly staff more and more lately, so much so that last weekend we held our engagement party there. The management were thoughtful and very helpful, the food was perfect, plenty of staff on, the dj was great!

My only gripe is whenever I come in the Deuchars is off! ;-) Apart from that it's a great pub that is a welcome addition to Colliers Wood. The pub is starting to find its own identity
Flawed - 29 Sep 2006 12:40
This is a terrific pub, from the warm smiley faces of the friendly staff, to the delicious food and the garden which is stunning, with the bonfires and dj on a Saturday night, you are guaranteed a good night out, Open until 1am too !! cant ask for much more, Its a cross between Cheers and Coyote Ugly !! "FANTASTIC" !!!
For those who have no patience to wait to be served, this is a sign of a busy pub, need I say more !!!
Come and visit, you will LOVE it !! :)
pud - 18 Sep 2006 17:43
Can't think of anything interesting to say about this place except that I could have been in another pretentious pub somewhere else.

Depressingly familiar. Why do people insist upon trying to pretend they're something they're not (and getting it wrong!!) - CW is not Fulham! Get your own identity!!! I'm all for change but I would have preferred something different.

Well done to the manager indeed - for cloning another Tup in a place that could definately have done without it.

Dull, Dull, Dull.

anonymous - 1 Aug 2006 16:40
Great pub, well done to the manager and his staff for a great time throughout the whole of the world cup. We went in there for every England match and the Final and had the best time ever. Roll on Euro 2008!!!!
anonymous - 10 Jul 2006 12:18
says they are air conditioned. went there on sat night and they had the door shut with no windows open (presumably for the neighbours). was like the black hole of calcutta. still, i suppose it is another way of making me order the ridiculously overpriced drinks quicker.
anonymous - 5 Jul 2006 10:32
Very amused by the comment about the fact that they think they serve the best roast in SW19. Quite a big claim and by virute of the fact that it was not really up to much, not very complimentary of the other roasts available in SW19. Whoevvr wrote that has clearly never been out for sunday lunch in the area - or is kept happy easily!

Went in there a while back and waited so long to get served a drink behind the bar (bar staff all serving food with no one to keep an eye on the bar - although there was one bloke who just looked like he was directing and not doing much else!) that we got bored and left! Don't mind waiting for a drink when a place is busy but that was taking the michael.

Over priced, nice garden - unfortunate situation about the Pylon but not much they cn do about that - but the place seems to have no personality at all - you could be in any pub anywhere. But perhaps that's what they're trying to do?

As pubs go it's OK - would be nice to see the bar staff smile every now and again - they could atleast make it look like they're trying to enjoy themselves.

As for the claims - if your going to talk the talk you've got to walk the walk!! Average does not mean best!!
anonymous - 20 Jun 2006 11:19
Quite a dull and costly place - kind of exactly the same as every other Tup in existence.

On the plus side, they occasionally have some decent guest ales on, which are still very expensive at (just) under 3 although, as mentioned, they stil try to skank you out of a full pint. The garden is spacious and nice, except for the pylon.

Even so, that is still not enough to warrant a visit to this, or any other Tup for that matter.
AleKing - 6 Jun 2006 17:03
3.20 for a pint in coliers wood is a bit much. Pub also stank of toilet gas!
anonymous - 2 Jun 2006 16:53
fit bird behind the jump who never smiles!!
anonymous - 2 Jun 2006 16:10
Expensive and it was fairly empty when they forgot about my guinness and didn't even apologise (on behalf of the pub)when I had to ask a different staff to finish it off. It costs far too much.
anonymous - 19 May 2006 13:23
Great beer garden, especially with the 'fire-pit'...

i havn't been when the rugby is on though, as i avoid the game like the plague.
propertyking - 15 May 2006 10:41
Nice beer garden and atmosphere, although down points are the plasma TVs being on all the time (do pubs think background "extreme sports" is that alluring?) and, more concerningly, the oversized heads on the beer.

I've lost count of the times I've had to ask for a top up. I went one afternoon when the rugby was on and the head-to-beer ratio has shocking (legally, at least 97% of a pint should be beer) and no-one complained about it, which is crazy if you're being charged 3+ a pint.
AnonAnonAnon - 10 May 2006 16:32
Been visiting Frequently lately. Become a great local. For those who don't know the area, I recommend it. I also occasionally go to Baobab but it's a bit inconsistent and clicky, but good music. I personally can't stand having to put up with comentary all night for a Second rate Football game while I'm trying to chat to my mates and relax. The atmosphere is superb for the big games though. So well done.
anonymous - 30 Apr 2006 19:15
What was up with the smell in there on tuesday? Like drains or something, really off-putting. Other than that the place is pretty good; it's a decent pub with one huge problem: The baobab, a minutes walk away, is substantially better.
big_andy - 21 Apr 2006 14:09
Nice beer garden, shame about the pylon!
anonymous - 20 Apr 2006 10:30
I agree with the last comment. It has been vagely amusing to have what appears to be the landlord praising his own establishment to the skies here for the last few months under an anonymous identity, but when he starts to put a customer down it is ridiculous. By the way, I tried the tup last week. As I walked in the barmaid was talking on the phone as about half a dozen folk waited at the bar. I turned on my heel and went to Boabab instead.
anonymous - 17 Apr 2006 20:57
Actually think that if the owner(?) is going to post on the website then perhaps it's not the best advertisement for him/her to try and be patronising in response to a fair point about the football. If I want to see a game and go to a pub where the sound isn't on I often leave and find another pub, sometimes it's quicker and less hassle!!
anonymous - 14 Apr 2006 17:21
This place just gets busier and busier, may well be rugby orientated, which is not so bad actually, but it's already promoting the World cup so thats where i'll be! My girlfriend can sit in the garden with her mates. Shame kids not allowed though.
anonymous - 12 Apr 2006 11:39
Hmmm, funny place to make such a trivial comment, best fired at the management direct face to face i would have thought maybe! Big matches yes we put the sound on ALWAYS, minor matches depends on the audience. We also have the facility to play music and the sound in different zones and also more than one match at a time with both commentries playing! Maybe you should pipe up next time and something could possibly be done about it, can't have you being 'disturbed' now can we. As for the music, it's easy listening and Tup style music downloaded from other Tups, maybe Tups are not for you my friend.
anonymous - 28 Mar 2006 22:26
A word to the management - if you are showing the football on the screens maybe try turning the sound on and the dreary house music off.
It's very disturbing to stare at a soundless game for 90 minutes.
rinky - 28 Mar 2006 13:59
Three different birthday parties in there last night, place was busier than new years eve, bit tight but a fantastic party, they ought to open it as a 'table top dancing club'.
anonymous - 5 Mar 2006 15:37
we popped in there last night again, funny funny man! there was a seven foot DJ with a 5ft doorman singing and dancing to 'is this the way to amerilo' along side them both was the gaffer strutting his stuff, hilarious! everyone wearing valentine hats,women dancing on the bar and a free raffle thrown in,my mate won two tickets for a reserved table with a meal thrown in on Valentines day.
anonymous - 12 Feb 2006 11:54
George, you twirl man! Keep doing what you do! For anyone who says George should not stay at The Tup then we can only suggest you dance with him!!! And listen to him singing. Cheers! "Abbey Mills residents"....
coops1 - 11 Feb 2006 01:48
I recently moved to Collier's Wood but have worked in the area for 4 years now.

This pub was a real find! Far and away the best I've found in the area until you get up to Tooting Bec.

I was made to feel very welcome and will be visiting again tonight to see the footy.

Apparently there is wifi access throughout the pub and I'll be there for the rugby six nations avec laptop :)

cptlogic - 1 Feb 2006 16:52
Just moved in to the area too,we viewed 6 pubs within a mile and the Tup won hands down,it didn't look any better than most of them, in fact a lot of the furniture though clean, looked old and tatty for a place which i was informed was new. What won it for us and our mates was the general overall feeling of being welcome and appreciated for a change. Roll on the summer, great garden.
beav8rit - 1 Feb 2006 15:29
Great pub with relaxed atmosphere, good food, excellent service and free broadband. What a bonus!
dclephane - 1 Feb 2006 11:26
We're moving into the area soon and we decided to check out the local drinking establishments. We really liked the place. Had a great atmosphere, the landlord is friendly and obviously knows his beer. We look forward to inviting our friends to our new local soon!
newbie101 - 30 Jan 2006 15:40
Great Pub - Thanks for an exceptional Carribean party at new year. what a blast! Friendly staff - just the best!
anonymous - 13 Jan 2006 12:37
The place is getting better. Guest ales are appearing (horrah), the staff are friendlier, the place is becoming more cosy and has a good sunday crowd
Flawed - 22 Dec 2005 11:22
What a good spot. It's a pity about the old photo. Really doesn't do the Tup justice. Was there for Bonfire night, and what a night! We've just had our office xmas party there and the buffet we were served was outstanding! Roll on the boxing day bonfire party!
anonymous - 14 Dec 2005 10:49
I enjoyed it sooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, looking forward to go back there and have one of the great cocktails prepared by the handsome barmen. Oh! New years eve party is soon!!
lolita - 13 Dec 2005 09:38
This is a great pub and the renovations, beer garden and bon fires set the scene for a good night out. The wide range of shooters and cocktails gives opportunity for something different. Free wireless broadband and big screen are plusses.
Looking forward to the Caribbean theme New Year's Eve party -it'll be a blast.
anonymous - 5 Dec 2005 06:32
A welcome breath of fresh air to Colliers Wood. A fantastic beer garden, nicely spacious, and they've made a real effort with the plants to create a cosy atmosphere despite a giant pylon overhead.

I went when it had just opened and the staff weren't very good and hopefully they'll get some guest beers in. The only beer they had was Courage Best, and then a choice of largers. It's getting busier in there each weekend I pass it so they've obviously got something right. The lighting is good, and seems friendly enough. Whilst the Victory (it's old name) served cheap beer and was an eyesore with cheap meals , shit atmosphere, the Tup seems to have addressed all the problems.
Flawed - 20 Sep 2005 14:38
Loki: good point about the ratings, I've removed the ones from before it changed. I'll try to get a new photo up soon too.
anne - 9 Sep 2005 16:50
Much better now than before. Clean and simple inside. Nice beer garden. Big screens, good lager. I drop in regularly but used to avoid The Victory.

Seems a pity it still has the old photos and definately unfair that it carries over it's old rating. After all, The Baobab got a fresh start on this site when it opened. It's more like a 7 or 8 now than a 5.
Loki - 7 Sep 2005 15:00
well the victory is gone, replaced by the tup. sorry if i sound like a snob, but thats a good trade for the people of colliers wood!

The place is as friendly as all tups, and the garden is very nice if you pretend that massive powerline isn't there (hows the serenity?)

Its not as cool as Baobab up the road, but a nice addition to colliers wood all the same.


hughc - 6 Sep 2005 16:15
This has now re-opened as The Colliers Tup and thank god for that. Went there last night and was really impressed. There are screens for sport but they are discreetly tucked away so as not to dominate the place. The garden looks amazing and this is just what Colliers Wood needs. Liked the sign outside stating 'no caps, no hoodies, no pets' and the fact that they had door staff, this will keep away the scaries that used to drink there....for a while at least! Very friendly and I wish them loads of luck!

rinky - 18 Aug 2005 09:21
Is it possible the postings by "anon" are the same person, perhaps the mystery man from Birmingham coming to save Colliers Wood
fatshirt - 24 Jun 2005 12:21
Wicked
This place was full of the scum of the area can not wait for a new gov & a new pub clean it up and clear it out I think its a great Idea will it be like the Balham Tup I certainly hope so

anonymous - 24 Jun 2005 10:40
who told ya that pongo? i heard it was re-opening as a pub again but not sports based, great if it is though. Some bloke from Birmingham taking it over i think whose been in the trade for years so should know what he is doing. We need a good pub here.
anonymous - 20 Jun 2005 01:46
just heard The Victory opposite the Tube station is going to re-open as a sports led pub, just what the area needs if its kept right.
pongo - 20 Jun 2005 01:41
The Victory was a crap hole i have to agree,I had a few beers in there now and again. Personally i can't wait for the new pub to open. I was speaking to the new gaffa a couple of days ago and he's a decent fella with years of experience and loads of ideas. It may well be sport mad when it re-opens but he says it will be aimed at the whole Colliers Wood community. Never met a gaffa with such enthusiasm, i for one will at least give it a whirl.
anonymous - 18 Jun 2005 11:51
The Victory Is DEAD long live the THE TUP
The refurb is on and this will be by far the best bar in Colliers Wood.
Wait Check it out you will agree New Face and new Style with out being pretenious great times to come
anonymous - 16 Jun 2005 14:28
Just heard the Victory is to close and re-open as one of those God awful Tup pubs, expect loads of rugger buggers dancing on tables. Is there no stopping the relentless march of the yuppie through south west London
fatshirt - 1 Jun 2005 10:51
Keeps the rabble off the streets. Has all the feel of an empty council flat.
Mr_smiler - 20 Jan 2005 16:17
They've taken down all the football scarves from behind the bar and given the place a lick of paint, I shall not be darkening their door again!
fatshirt - 17 Jan 2005 08:20
I visited again on Tuesday (7/7/04) and my girlfriens and I had quite a nice time. Big leather settee to drink our pints on. Very good. I liked the atmosphere and she did too.
Alexh1982 - 9 Jul 2004 13:07
This is an awful, awful pub - I've been in about 5 times as I live locally. The atmosphere is aggressive, the staff unfriendly, the regulars boorish alcoholics - awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anonymous - 4 May 2004 14:31
Me and my girlfriend regulary visit the victory, she is black and we've never had any problems in there. The place may be a bit scruffy and the punters not genteel but thats what I want from a pub not stripped pine floors, ambient lighting and people talking absolute b******s. Oh and I've always found the staff freindly
Glen - 27 Feb 2004 12:26
The most disgusting,unwelcoming,rascist pub I have ever been into in all 35 years of my life.The punters and staff are equally as vile! Avoid it unless you want to be exposed to thick biggots who are a discrace to Colliers Wood! Nicer people in Gazpacho or Riverside.
Matthew - 12 Dec 2003 10:59
One Sturdy afternoon I nipped into The Victory to watch the football results. Lee Bowyer was the top footballer as far as the punters were concerned and some of the lads wanted to start a "Kick Racism Into Football" campaign. These guys were loud and explicitly racist. They were obviously regulars, as they knew half the rest of the pub.

Service was rubbish and the management seemed happy with the open racism, they definitely heard it and seemed to accept it as part of the norm.

A previous visit had seen a very drunk and very aggressive woman (a customer I think) repeatedly go behind the bar to turn off my girlfriend's selections on the jukebox so she could hear hers. Normal behaviour it seemed.

The same night a baby was cooed over by staff and regulars at the bar at 10.30 P.M.
Well why not? It’s the perfect atmosphere for a newborn child and the staff had nothing else to, definitely not serving.

I was warned off this pub by a friend but gave it the benefit of the doubt. I'd advise you not to. I asked other locals about it after my experiences. Ignore what others here have said: It does have a reputation as an unwelcoming, aggressive and racist pub.

Go to The Royal Standard instead. It’s a bit grotty but it has a heart.

shane - 6 Dec 2003 16:28
The Victory is well kept, well decorated, a proper London pub with a huge ceiling and majestic woodwork above the bar and borders. I see what another writer means about the internal bus stop, I didn't realise there was one actually inside the pub just thought the bus stop outside was covered by the canopy sort of thing. Polite staff and very convenient for Colliers Wood tube (Northern Line). Sadly the people drinking in it were very loud and a bit intimidating (I was on my own but even still it was 1pm)and I don't know what it is like in the evening. Apart from that it is a really attractive pub.
Alexh1982 - 25 Nov 2003 00:28
Top place in my opionion. People are friendly, no pretentiousness just good honest people. Can be a little bit rough although I have never seen any trouble there and I have been a regaulr for a few about a year now.
Bil - 31 Oct 2003 10:26
In the few times I have been in The Victory I have been warmly welcomed by the landlady and been served a good pint. Admittedly it's a little rough and ready as are some of the clientele but some of the comments above are totally unfounded.
Mick - 2 Oct 2003 11:02
Very cheap food and booze, but as Confucius say "Good no cheap and cheap no good" Quality beer garden but bar service is unreliable especially if it's the muppet with the mullet.
2tin punter - 9 Sep 2003 15:25
i dont have a clue what paul is talking about, i use this pub on a regular basis and can assure all this is not an nf pub, because they dont exist anymore!
not the greatest pub going but it is good, lots of regulars, from builders to estate agents a large spectrum of people use this pub.
nice land lady, barman chris is a riot, and a couple of young chicks thrown in to keep us all happy!
worth a look in
and its right opposite the tube
tomsw19 - 5 Sep 2003 12:35
i dont know where the nf bit comes from, think thats made up to be honest. pub is full of scaffolders and a lot of tradesmen, can be hard to get served sometimes and often a bit of entertainment outside after closing time!. all in all a good pub, dont be put off going in it can be a screem
tom - TomMash19@aol.com - 2 Sep 2003 12:56
This is a well-known NF haunt, which should put off most right-thinking punters. If not, the shabby, dirty "decor" and grumpy staff should do the trick.
Paul - 1 Jul 2003 18:11
it is great and the staff are very friendly
jake wilde - 18 Jun 2003 18:39
Great for footie days. Great for getting drunk cheap and playin on the fruities. Crap (cheap food). Pub would scare most birds off.
dave - 13 Jun 2003 08:57
I LIKE CAKE
wheat ley - 8 Nov 2002 11:02
The barman is a geezer-he'll buy you a drink if you ask him nicely!

Darren Quinn - 18 Aug 2002 16:56
The barman resembles Rod Stewart!!!

Big Dave - 18 Aug 2002 16:54
the barman looks like Peter Stringfellow.
dominik - 13 Aug 2002 14:35
mad barman
anne - 28 Jun 2002 10:45

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