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Filthy McNasty's II, Twickenham

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teh new name of this pub will be "THE GRAND UNION"....
foney - 10 Nov 2006 23:18
just recently noticed this is being refurbished!!!

the notice outside is looking for barstaff...

the owner is 'grand union' and the email was , err, buttonbar??? - sorry, long night, memory affected by too much good beer at the beer fest!!! :D:D:D

foney - 30 Oct 2006 16:31
In case no-one's noticed - this pub has closed down, and has moved everything to the redlion down the road...

there is council planning notice on the door, so we'll have to wait and see what it will become.....
foney - 5 Oct 2006 11:07
there are some really kool bands at filthys, and not only are they kool but they'r pretty proffesional, for example (i dont mean to plug but) BattleKat, Cosmic Debry and Marner Brown always rock it. I had a really good laugh the other night. It made me moist, sticky and then very sweaty and that was before i stepped into the late redlion/sauna. HOWEVER, they need to check up on I.D more, there was a slight youth club feel to the place, there was also the token old pervert leaning on the sticky wet bar who was "there for the music", yeh f*ucking right mate.
therealmonkeyman - 28 Sep 2006 16:17
Hi there, glad the guy below enjoyed the Twickenham Blues Jam at Filthys that I help to run. Our standard time now is 6-9 every Sunday and everyone's welcome. Get your name on the list when you come in and we'll get you up asap. If you're a singer, have a song ready that you want to sing and if a guitar player, be tuned up before you come on.

Filthys is a full time live music venue - no swirly carpets here!

anonymous - 21 Jul 2006 14:09
Filthys is great - you have to take these places as they're meant to be enjoyed. If you want a quiet gentile pint next to dog by the fire, go elsewhere. You want to rock out, get yourself to Filthys. Yeah there are a few nobheads in there, but that's par for the course with grotty music bars. Went to their Sunday afternoon blues session last week and it was excellent.
DaveMere - 26 Jun 2006 18:08
I am one of those local musicians who've played there, albeit Version 1, but will be returning again in July. The band were treated well by the staff there, can't say the same about the Red Lion. They haven't even had the decency to reply to the CD I popped in there last year... Never mind, their loss!

Personally I feel there's little enough live music venues around this area as it is.
miketw10 - 22 Jun 2006 13:47
They should leave this place as it is - Twickenham is not exactly short of crappy poncy pubs is it?
anonymous - 16 Jun 2006 10:11
well well well, looks like interprise killing another pub off, but filthys was full of horrible bands, under age emo kids, it smells bad,was way over priced, the only good place for live music was the red lion, that was a pub with a good atmos and great bar staff.

looks like karma caught up with filthys in the end, wont go bad mouthing other ppl off now will we??

ted_the_hat - 1 Jun 2006 19:47
At least the "drunken" students bother to come to see live music on a regular basis.

I thought the idea of a music venue was that all people, of any age, status, race or style could go there and enjoy music, not be stereotyped by people like you Itcolumbo - do you have some bad feelings for some reason?

Also a music venue should give an "open" forum for all music styles and allow bands starting out a place to play and gain experience, those band you rated as "a poor standard" may one day be a great local act, you never know, but a real music venue will take the risk, because if no where let new bands play, then there would never be any "up and coming" acts.

The staff are normally perfectly polite and happy (well the bar staff) the tech team can be a bit grumpy now and then, but that's what is expected to be perfectly honest.

I think the diversity of the artists we've had through the venue speaks for itself (although I'm not going to write a big list now as it's 4:30am).
carlgos - 31 May 2006 04:49
Ahhhhh, what a shame. What comes round goes around eh Big John. Just goes to show you that it takes a bit more than just trying to ruin another venues good name to make a success.Ha ha ha, how does it feel mate? Horrible I'll bet, all that time, effort and money wasted. Never mind eh.
anonymous - 30 May 2006 23:31

This should be an impartial forum, not a place to advertise lousey venues like this.

When i visited filthy mcnastys, it was full of drunken students, the music was of a poor standard, the staff surly.
Make your own mind up, i love live music and would love to big this joint up.

THE TRUTH IS THIS PLACE SUCKS. It is pointless and tacky. please go away
ltcolumbo - 29 May 2006 14:20
I started a Blues Jam at the pub after the Red Lion pub closed down, ending the jam there. We're there from 4.30 til 7.30 every Sunday and it's been great so far with most of the Lion jammers plus quite a few ones we've picked up through being right in the middle of town. Blues and rock and funk and soul. Come and play or just come and watch. Great music for free in a proper music venue.

anonymous - 19 May 2006 11:08
Have to say, I have mixed feelings about the proposed change to Filthy's. I live approximately 300 metres from the front door of this pub. I am a former professional guitarist, and try to support live music venues and new, emerging bands. I have to say, though, Filthy's is just not somewhere I would spend my evenings. I feel that there is just slightly too much of the student union bar about the place, and, I have to say, with respect to those who have been working hard to make the place work, there is still a general air of grottyness . I understand that a lot of people like this kind of underground ambience, but it's just not somewhere I personally would, say, bring a girlfriend to see a band. It will be a shame if this place ceases to be a music venue, but for this place to remain both profitable and retain its reputation as a venue a drastic overhaul is essential.

I'm not convinced that any brewery spends significant amounts of money in order to run a pub into the ground, but I do agree that Twickenham will have lost an opportunity for the establishment of a venue with a city-wide reputation for good, live music.
LeBooze - 15 May 2006 17:53
another good pub thats going. A sad day when it finally closes. Everyone should support this venue . . I know I will be . .
anonymous - 11 May 2006 22:19

We have just been told by Scottyish & Newcastle that they intend to "Renovate" Filthy's.

This means the following:
--The pub will no longer be a music "venue"
--We will be kicked out
--The pub will be turned into a Rugby themed pub, to compete with Lloyds rebranding of the Sorting room as a Rugby themed pub later this year.

I hope other people feel the same way, Filthy's is something a little "different" in Twickenham, it's not a clone pub/trendy bar, it's a friendly, non violent atmosphere and most importantly, the staff really care abouyt what we're doing and many of us have been putting in work for free trying to improve the building.

To try and convince S&N that we should keep the place alive as it is, we have a petition available in the pub to sign


I have also heard that Scottich and NEwcastle have a slightly "longer" term plan, which basically involves the renovation of the building costing 300,000 but (there is always a but) they don't intend for it to suceed in it's new guise, instead they want it to run itself to the ground and use it as a tax write off, then sell the premises to a property developer (unknown company) who has already looked at purchasing the carpark behind the pub to create a large site for developement of yet more flats and shop front on Twickenham's main streets.

Offer your support in any way you can, we starting turning Filthy's around 6 weeks back, making it a better place to come to, in that time, we've done a lot, but now all this hard work may be for nothing.
carlgos - 11 May 2006 16:43
Ah, poor little anonymous, obviously bearing some sort of grudge methinks? If UNSAFE PASSAGE are so cr*p, it's amazing that they have regular gigs all over the South East. The words "laughing" and "bank" spring to mind...
ladyjaneg - 1 May 2006 13:47
Not as good as its sibling in N1. Badly kept beer.

Unsafe Passage??? More like Back Passage! They are complete cr*p.
anonymous - 26 Apr 2006 11:48
This venue could become a saving grace for a lot of bands. My band '' UNSAFE PASSAGE '' are booked to play in this venue on the 7th of May. Spoke with John, and he seems to know whats he's doing and wish him and Mac nastys all the best and hope to be a regular at this venue. . . .
scratch - 26 Apr 2006 09:37
There's not been a refit of any sort yet!!!!

We've been working like mad just to get the place sorted out after a string of bad managers.

Now we got John running the show things have been ace!

Things done this month:
PA is now installed and sounding great
Outside is currently being painted
Beer is now actually stocked at the bar
More bar staff taken on

Things we're aiming to do soon:
Build a new stage (the current one is hired)
Redecorate the whole of the inside
Get the aircon working again

Over the last few weeks, we've had live music almost every night, had a lot of people in and had loads of good feedback about how much has happened to improve the place!

If things carry on like this, then maybe there will be some money to invest in more improvements!

I'll keep posting as things happen!

carlgos - 15 Apr 2006 01:11
Went in here for the first time since the "refit". This was on a rugby day. I have to say, although it is not my cup of tea, there is a place for a slightly rough round the edges bar that shows music in Twickenham. There's enough cliquey crappy pubs around ala Bear/Patch so there is room for this place too.
TheGP - 19 Mar 2006 20:36
Firestly it's great that there is a venue right here in Twickenham that's a proper gig place for bands that are original as well as covers.

But then I heard recently that after Dan left the management had gone downhill so avoided it as many people did. However, it's now bring run by Joihn who is a really nice bloke and a muso himself and the new proper stage is fantastic.

This place is woreth checking out again as new manager and staff are v friendly, PA is good and new stage much bigger... given a chance and some support this venue could turn into a cracker, which is what it was becoming until that short lived stint by the manager after Dan and before John.

Let's show some support for this live music venue.

planeboy - 12 Mar 2006 19:47
Live music is alive and well in Twickers. A long needed pub indeed. Saw Glen Matlock play here. It was fantastic to have a evening like that practically on my doorstep without having to travel in to London.
PurpleRocker - 12 Mar 2006 10:31
The pub really doesn't need more space, it's actually quite big. The thing is, the space isn't well used - the bar takes up so much space that it makes the whole room seem really small. This is being looked at.

The car park at the back is owned by Richmond council, not the pub, so extending isn't an option, the is a small beer garden, but we couldn't extend into this as it is a fire exit.

This Thursday and Friday there were at least 4 bar staff working, as well as the new Manager Jonny (friendly large bald chap). Early week nights there are normally at least 2 bar staff as there is never many customers in.

We're currently looking at the music format for the venue - we want to keep it as diverse as possible and not fall into the "metal venue" or "blues venue" trap - we want to create a proper music venue, with everything from Blue to Rock to Indie, to Metal (and any style we can put on).

We are currently trying to arrange a regular Sunday night live Blues act(s), a saturday night Rock club (with at least 1 live act) and then live music Wed/Thur/Fri.

I'll keep updating as it happens :)
carlgos - 11 Mar 2006 17:39
well I hope you have improved the qualityof beer and staff.. last time I was there I waited more than 1/2 hour for low quality beer... only two staff serving...

another thing deparateley needed is space - there is a carpark at the back that can be extended into... how about it??
foney - 10 Mar 2006 12:07
Walked by here on Saturday afternoon and it was practically empty. Nothing unusual in that you may wonder but it was a rugby day. An hour before England kicked off. You'd never have seen the likes in the Hobgoblin days I can tell you. Speaks volumes. Surprised it's still open.
Cleversaz - 23 Nov 2005 14:16
I have been drinking in pubs for many years and I can honestly say last night was the worst pub experience of my life! It took me over 20 mins to even get served at the bar - not because they were busy, because unsurprisingly they weren't, but because the bar staff were totally useless (or, maybe I am an invisible person). I later made the mistake of needing the toilet - in over 20 years of travel, India, Turkey, Africa etc this was the most disgusting toilet I have ever seen. I won't describe it in detail, but I am not a squeamish person, and I ended up going to MacDonalds for a wee. (by the way, the bar staff just shrugged when I told them). The band was actually very good, but the sound quality was appalling, and my friends just walked out.
Overall, accurately named, don't bother.
sue_carter - 24 Oct 2005 00:05
I went there last night for the first time as they had an act playing I wanted to see. Dark, dingy, cavernous, most beers off, and near-deserted except for a small knot of people in front of the stage, and directly behind them a noisy bunch who obviously had no interest in the music whatever. I left after 10 minutes leaving half my pint undrunk. Nuff said.
E17Bee - 15 Sep 2005 10:10
Well, we plucked up the courage last night to check it out. Not that it looked too scary at the time. In the dark (we went at about 9:30) the outside wasn't really very noticeable at all, and the candles on the tables inside made it look quite pleasant. The atmosphere once we got in wasn't intimidating in the slightest, although it would be hard to feel intimidated in a pub that was so empty. There were a couple of tables of people watching a bloke sing covers, two old-ish guys having a chat, and us.

The layout is pretty much identical to how it was in the Hobgoblin days, although they've removed all the fruit machines, TVs, quiz machines, etc. They seem to be going for the live music angle in quite a big way, with stuff going on most nights. The barman wasn't particularly friendly but wasn't unpleasant either, just rather disinterested. My Guinness was fine, and prices seemed fairly average for Twickenham; I think it was 5.40 for a Guinness and a Fosters.

All in all - a bit early to tell how it will turn out, but I'd definitely recommend giving it a chance. I suspect a lot will depend on what sort of people end up going there regularly, so if you don't want it filled with the old Hobgoblin crowd, now's the time to get down there. Oh, but one word of warning: I don't think it opens until 4pm, so you might not want to head there for a lunchtime pint.
anne - 26 Aug 2005 10:42
Aye, fair point GP. That thought did actually occur after I'd recovered from the initial shock of seeing the place.
Cleversaz - 23 Aug 2005 15:37
Let's face it, it was pub for chavs and pikeys before it changed it's name - At least now no unsuspecting punter will go in by mistake!!
TheGP - 22 Aug 2005 16:34
I haven't been in, and nor will I. Walking past, it looks like it's been taken over by pikeys. They haven't even got a sign, instead they've merely daubed backboard paint over the previously well-chalked rugby images on the blackboards outside and written its horrible new name in their place - badly. What the hell's going on? Is there a bunch of pikeys who happened to have a 'found' a shed-load of beer squatting here or what? Surely no brewery in their right mind would open a drinking establishment that looked so uninvitingly rough? Looks like the kind of place to go for a fight, not a pint. Someone please correct me if my onlooker impressions are wrong - and I hope to god they are because surely somewhere that looks this scary has no place in Twickenham?
Cleversaz - 20 Aug 2005 16:13
Filthy McNastys 2? Some sort of joke surely!!

Unless they have truly come up with a name to match the pub..
TheGP - 8 Aug 2005 21:11
Ha walked in this pub with my mates on saturday night, looked at each other and walked straight back out without saying a word to each other, says it all really!!
TIA_MARIA.1 - 1 Aug 2005 14:11
What a splendid selection of music on friday nights......
Camrur - 24 Mar 2005 18:22
Really like this pub for the Rugby...just avoid the Kareoke night...what a load of rubbish!
Feels quite homely...maybe Ive spent far too much time in this one! There is a bit of a pikey element - but not for the rugby.
amumd - 10 Feb 2005 15:47
Bit of a dive but something inherrantly nice about it - possibly the many happy, drunken Saturdays I've spent in here over the years watching the rugby. Floor's a bit sticky tho.
Cleversaz - 24 Jan 2005 16:46
Have to disagree with the previous comments, there has been no trouble from this pub for well over a year and as a regular there have seen no police notices anywhere concerning the hobgoblin. People should check their facts before shouting the mouths off about a venue from what i can see the previous people have slagged every pub in twickenham off. the only downside i can find with the pub is that it is in need of redecoration.
anonymous - 7 Jan 2005 18:30
Make sure you eat a lot of carrots before a visit. If you're lucky, you might be able to see the bar. After 5mins your clothes will smell as if they are made from the nastiest of cigars. Only reason to visit: good sports venue.
Zod - 21 Sep 2004 13:14
Oi David! I live in Feltham and am not scum! Although to be fair, I understand where you are coming from!

I think all the pikeys in the Hob Goblin are more than likely to be from Whitton and Hounslow, which was full of them last time I checked. Possibly brought here via the 281 bus.
TheGP - 10 Sep 2004 11:31
Agree entirely. The sooner the little pikeys go back to their dump the better. Twickenham used to be and still can be a nice place to go out. Real shame as I used to enjoy going here 6/7 years ago.
Ringo - 20 May 2004 14:13
By day you could stumble upon this pub and be forgiven for thinking it had charm. Indeed the interior has been designed with an unorthodoxy which is rather refreshing. At night however it shows itself up for the dive it really is. There are bouncers on the door. Speaks a thousand words.
Good for: People from Hounslow who fancy a fight.
thenationofjames - 4 Dec 2003 13:36
Had a quality day in here after the world cup, went absolutely apeshit. Pub was abslolutely manky but made up for it in atmosphere.
hongkongdave - 29 Nov 2003 17:59
Great Karaoke Nights Used to be a regular but changed landlord and the people changed Drunk girls starting fights, Pervy blokes beating eachother up outside and really Bad, loud DJs playing the same thing for 3 hours!!
Alex - 30 Oct 2003 12:30
I loved it. Good atmosphere. friendly staff. Never saw any trouble whatsoever. Does anyone know Richard Taylor who drank there? Scottish lad, worked in Waitrose.
anon - 4 Sep 2003 11:02
full of knackers - just like the George - who are not from Twick. Really bad effect on Twick with late night fights and drunks. Wish it would close down and change.
Niall - 29 Aug 2003 16:53
avoid wednesday nights when the "ladies" rugby team from the college are around.
anonymous - 21 Aug 2002 01:10
started to play good music at the moment, but theres no air conditioning so you sweat your bollox off!!!
anonymous - 21 May 2002 09:13

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